New Everton Stadium Discussion

No, no water channel beforehand. As the pics show it was a dock in full.

Disappointed the new water channel is going to be shallow. I thought it was meant to keep connectivity between the two docks either side but I guess it's more just for show.

The connectivity is more that the water will be able to move through the docks. It's not for boats etc. who beforehand could enter BM dock but could not pass through to Nelson.
 
No, no water channel beforehand. As the pics show it was a dock in full.

Disappointed the new water channel is going to be shallow. I thought it was meant to keep connectivity between the two docks either side but I guess it's more just for show.
My understanding is that the water channel was to create a visual connection only. That may not be entirely accurate but I found this excerpt from the Heritage Statement in the planning docs...

"A shallow water channel, oriented North to South, is to be excavated from the infill on the western side of the dock (new retaining wall installed to form the eastern edge of the of the new water channel) to create a visual water connection between Sandon Half-Tide Dock to the north and Nelson Dock to the south"

There is an additional note at the bottom that reads...

"Noting no navigation possible at present due to an isolation structure installed between BMD and Nelson Dock. There is hydrological connectivity between Sandon Half-Tide Dock and Nelson Dock via BMD through sluice pipes constructed along the dock basin"
 
My understanding is that the water channel was to create a visual connection only. That may not be entirely accurate but I found this excerpt from the Heritage Statement in the planning docs...

"A shallow water channel, oriented North to South, is to be excavated from the infill on the western side of the dock (new retaining wall installed to form the eastern edge of the of the new water channel) to create a visual water connection between Sandon Half-Tide Dock to the north and Nelson Dock to the south"

There is an additional note at the bottom that reads...

"Noting no navigation possible at present due to an isolation structure installed between BMD and Nelson Dock. There is hydrological connectivity between Sandon Half-Tide Dock and Nelson Dock via BMD through sluice pipes constructed along the dock basin"
So a subsurface pipe will connect Sandon to this new BMD channel to Nelson, is that right?
 

I don't feel best placed to answer that I'm just sharing info from planning docs and videos I've seen. I may give the linked video above another watch.
I'm pretty sure that's what this means - can't really see another way of interpreting it:

There is hydrological connectivity between Sandon Half-Tide Dock and Nelson Dock via BMD through sluice pipes constructed along the dock basin

So basically, it stops the water getting stagnant, I guess.
 
I'm pretty sure that's what this means - can't really see another way of interpreting it:

There is hydrological connectivity between Sandon Half-Tide Dock and Nelson Dock via BMD through sluice pipes constructed along the dock basin

So basically, it stops the water getting stagnant, I guess.
Yes, but I took that from the heritage statement which references moving the multistorey car park from the west Quay and integrating it into the stadium, and the car park was ultimately binned so that's clearly an outdated doc. Things may have changed. I'm not sure which of the many docs details the final water channel design, but David Badcock seemed to have a lot of info in that Mr Drone video.
 

I see Dan Meis has left Meis architects... interesting.
Everton stadium architect to start new role at Aecom this week
Dan Meis has left the practice which he founded in 2007 to join Aecom, his former joint venture partner has confirmed.
Meis was announced yesterday as Aecom’s new director of global sports design but it was initially unclear if this meant he had left his practice, Meis Design Studio.
A spokesperson for Perkins Eastman, the US practice which merged with Meis Design Studio in 2021, has now said Meis had decided to part ways with his practice.
”Dan is joining AECOM and we wish him success in the next chapter of his career. Meis Design Studio remains an operating entity managed by Perkins Eastman,” the spokesperson said.
Perkins Eastman holds the controlling interest in Meis Design Studio, which was known as Meis Architects before its merger.
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Dan Meis
Meis, who designed Everton’s new Bramley Moore Dock stadium with BDP-owned practice Pattern, had been the managing director of Meis Design Studio for 17 years.
It is currently unknown how his departure will affect his former practice and if it will be rebranded again.
He said on Monday that he was “very excited to join the incredible team of talented professionals at AECOM”.
He added: “Sports architecture has long been dominated by a small handful of design firms and is well overdue for some creative disruption.
“I am looking forward to bringing our studio’s commitment to innovation and out-of-the-box thinking to one of the world’s largest and most diverse global design organizations.”
He will start the newly created role at Aecom on Friday.
Meis’ other major projects include the Manchester Arena, designed in the early 1990s when he worked at Ellerbe Becket, the US practice which was itself bought by Aecom in 2009.
He was a partner at NBBJ for nine years from 1995 and was later a senior principal at Populous before spending two years at Woods Bagot as global sport director in a parallel role while still leading Meis Design Studio.
 
Yes, but I took that from the heritage statement which references moving the multistorey car park from the west Quay and integrating it into the stadium, and the car park was ultimately binned so that's clearly an outdated doc. Things may have changed. I'm not sure which of the many docs details the final water channel design, but David Badcock seemed to have a lot of info in that Mr Drone video.
Any other solution seems more complicated, so I wouldn't be surprised if it remains the same as then.

The channel has been present in designs throughout - though it did for a period have a third access bridge, I'm not sure how much that would affect things:

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