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I'm not saying we are better off.

This is from a fellow Everton fan below; I'm interested in the debate. Hold my hands up and admit that the timing was misjudged, but my thinking was that yesterday seemed to be rock bottom for most Everton fans and my point is that rock bottom could lead to light at the end of the tunnel...

Nice one - I do like Everton as a club, always had lots of good conversations with them on away days.

I think we're better equipped than at least 6 teams in the PL, so any position from 12th to 14th would be a good achievement considering the context of the past 20 years. A few Forest fans think we'll be top 10, which is laughable. Entering the 3rd season of the PL and aiming for a position of...

What am I meant to put... I'm not coming with any 'hate'. A football fan engaging in football opinions... is football so tribal, that this can't happen?

Seems to be a lot of anger towards the ownership and Moyes name is mentioned as someone who could turn things around. Financial implications are something I'd not really considered and I appreciate the circumstances are different to Newcastle and Villa. You're not going to go down this season...

I'd misjudged the financial impact of relegation. The teams that have come up are going to struggle, so tbh you'll be fine this season. I get the impression that the annoyance from Everton fans is directed at the ownership.

It would be a nightmare if Forest were to go down in the next couple of seasons, because we've only just come back up. Different situation with Everton, as you've got the long standing history in the top flight and it might be the case that you could return to glory having reset the system. On...

Do you think a Moyes return could happen? Would he come back? Seems like it would be a good fit

It would be pathetic behaviour if I was to come on here and give an opinion on Everton Football Club, as I would rightly receive short shrift. However, I don't see anything wrong with asking whether relegation would allow a great club to bounce back and return to some form of glory. Newcastle...

In terms of longstanding history, Bournemouth and Everton aren't even in the same league. Bournemouth are just an example of a club that seem to be managed efficiently both on and off the pitch and have survived relegation to bounce back stronger. Bournemouth are likely to finish higher than...

I didn't take in to account the extent of your financial situation tbh. By the sounds of things, it would more than likely be a case of spending years out of the PL, as opposed to bouncing straight back

That's why I didn't refer to us (Forest) as an example. We're not a great example of bouncing straight back, but Villa, maybe even Bournemouth are teams that have had spells in the Championship and are now better equipped in the PL.

I take it that's a firm 'No'

Forest fan in peace... Is there an argument that relegation might be a good thing for Everton? There are a few teams who have been down in the Championship and have bounced back to a position of strength, I think Villa spent a couple of seasons down there and they've rebuilt. Even if you...

If Forest and Leicester fans could come together and 'do something' that would send a message. Going to be more and more teams that get caught out

Well, it took a long and bumpy road to get somewhere, but this is what I wanted when I started this discussion. I'll contact someone who runs one of our podcasts and see if something can be done. Given the strength of animosity towards Forest, I think it's doubtful tbh, but we'll see.

Yes, I've accepted that as a Forest fan, I'm not approaching this discussion with clean hands. We're currently getting a lot of stick from Wolves fans, but if they breach FFP in the future (which is more likely to happen with the future changes to the rules) and approached us to seek some form...

Fantastic point... currently having a great discussion with some Ipswich fans, who have waited a long time to bounce back to the Premier League and if they do get promoted, they're looking at Forest and thinking, we better not give it too much of a go, but the alternative is to be a Sheffield...

Agreed, we spent frivolously. Cost of our squad on promotion was £12 million, I think the nearest squad cost at the time was Bournemouth at around £150 million, so spending had to be made. As for Marinakis, he certainly is prepared to invest, which I'd prefer over an owner who isn't.