Has Phil Jagielka peaked?

[tsdoddy]

Mention the name Phil Jagielka to any Evertonian and most will say he's the best CB at the club. After watching last season coupled with this world cup I cant help but admit that hes not up to it at elite level. I'm talking international and champions league material. When playing at that level you get exposed, now I'm not saying he's shi@e, but if we're to progress as a club we need a better CB. Bruno martins-indi would be ideal paired with Stonesy for the future.

Chris Waddle slammed England for not learning. Its not about all your flair and attacking players, youve got to build from the back then up to midfield before you think about attack. All successful sides have a good foundation.

In relation to the the thread title, has he peaked? Yes I think he has a couple of seasons ago.

 

[Azzurri]

He's injured.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Chris Waddle ffs ?

 

[toffee matt]

He's injured.

Yep, this is the answer.

You can't expect someone who's been out injured for half the season to come back and play like he's as sharp as ever.

 

[hktoffee]

All these media bell just blame everything on Everton players.

 

[tsdoddy]

All these media bell just blame everything on Everton players.

mate I try an stay away from bias as much as I can but hes not a top 4 CB IMO.

 

[tsdoddy]

Good defender but not top

 

[Dutch Toffee]

BMI is NOWHERE NEAR the level of Jags. Of course he still has youth on his side, but I severely doubt he'll ever get to that level. Jags has plenty of years left as part of our first choice CB pairing.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Jags is at his peak as a defender, he might have been poor on Thursday and should certainly have done a lot better with the 1st goal but he's probably the best centreback England has. I'm not sure were you're getting the idea that last season he couldn't handle being part of the elite, as he proved his worth during many matches and never let us down when he was fully fit.

Also this myth that the Dutch lads a great defender really needs quashing, Van Gaal himself has said the reason Holland play 3 centre backs is because none of them can be trusted and there's obviously safety in numbers. He may go on to prove himself but at the moment he's not in Jags class.

 

[joe harper]

great thread ffs

 

[toffee matt]

These dutch defenders have became flavour of the month at the moment.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

mate I try an stay away from bias as much as I can but hes not a top 4 CB IMO.

If Cahill and Terry can get into that Chelsea team so would Jags, he'd also start for Arsenal, he'd get in the City team ahead of Lescott of the Dismals, and there's no way he wouldn't be a starter for the 5hite

 

[ToffeeTyler]

All these media bell just blame everything on Everton players.

I read that as well, but ESPN goes right for Gerrard, says it was all his fault and that he put no effort in the game against Italy and let Suarez's two goals in.

 

[LinekersLegs]

He peaked nicely on his jump for that goalline clearance against Italy

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Firstly he's still an excellent defender so will be valuable for his skills.

Secondly he's a good captain for us and a fine example to Stones.

Finally we wouldn't get big money for him and probably not even enough to replace him.

so all in all it's a no for me.