Theres just 1 problem, Big Oil has its clubs and isnt buying any others.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Why? Were Big Saudi oil not aware of Big UAE oil at City when they bought Newcastle?
Everton are the last blue chip English club available to buy. If you dont think big oil and sovereign wealth funds and Yank billionaires aren't looking at what's going on at Everton right now you need your head feeling.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £40m
I'd hope you're right in that regard. Difficult to see where it would come from in the Middle East at any rate. The other big money tap would be China, but hard to see that in reality also.
A conglomerate of high net wealth individual investors would be the next best alternative.
The stadium is no doubt a big attraction but at present the club is full of cost and loss. It does present an opportunity at a relatively low buy-in for the right group.
I'd just hope above all that we don't end up with another chancer loading us with debt.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
We've recently had a load of yank chancers trying to get a bargain. Moshiri laughed at them and their valuation. He's right. Everton are going to be valued in the hundreds of millions for big investors who dont see money as a problem.
Blue chip?
We are a nothing club that survives relegation every season.
The only people who have shown interest are some fake millionaires with CCJs.
Take on board what you are saying mate, a lot comes down to interpretation and slant, my take would be:
1) You don't invest in football for profit from the business, you wont make any, sure profit is desirable and assists in meeting costs and funding the club, but its not enough to justify the scale of investment in a football club. The more profit, the more you can reinvest into the club to make it better, raise its profile and let it appreciate. There are two type of investors, one like the Glazers, Kronkes and FSF, who will invest and run the club through its own revenue, grow it if they can and sit on the investment, let it appreciate and sell at a profit - this is a long term aim. Its means you dont have to put any capital into the club and the club looks after itself, you manage it well and let appreciate over time - their profit is in the investment and growing its value not on the business profit. Second type are the likes of City, Newcastle and Chelsea under Abromovich. To a degree arguably sports washing so money no object, but also an investment in a club is used to diversify a wider portfolio of investment as they are heavily exposed to fossil fuels and this will waine, so they are looking to spread and diversify investment and buy legitimacy. They will try with huge resources to grow a club, make is self sufficient, build their own legitimacy and profile, but for a time the club are utterly dependent on them, before becoming self sufficient. City and Chelsea washes its own face now more or less, in a different stratosphere to what they were historically, more or less and Newcastle will to eventually.
2) You could be right, but the scenario of the market, going downward of bust is true of any investment and football is no different, so you will get bullish investors and on the opposite those looking to pull the parachute be a mix of both, just depends on what type of investor you are, ultimately investment is speculating, football is no different to any other investment, its a different type of real estate really. It could be a difficult environment for investment in the year ahead, depending on what you believe economically, or how deep a recession across Europe will get, but that could also lead to a few vultures wanting to take an opportunity of a distressed asset or low hanging fruit for a club in financial difficulty also.
3) Again investors aren't really looking to make a profit out of the business for themselves, its desirable from the point of view of not having to invest running capital and if you can grow you can develop the club, but in buying the club you are accepting that's its a high cost environment and you wont be making money annually from the business, no one does really, its all about the asset and making it grow, thats the money to be made in football.
4) For me its hard to think of a good investor for us at the moment. Probably someone who will cover the stadium costs and continue to fund our losses - but that's no different to what we have. A bad investor for us would be some one who comes in saddles us with more debt or sells players. The company has costs beyond our turnover so cash has to come from somewhere, debt and selling players are two ways of getting it if your not investing your own captial to cover costs. Neither i think you'd agree in our current situation is desirable.
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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
What were Newcastle?
We have a chairman in BK who seems he doesn't want to let go. Mike Ashley was ready to move on.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Kenwright is nothing now. Not in terms of ownership. Moshiri wants a big number and he'll leave. Only the oil states, China and a cohort of Yank billionaires fall into the category of producing daft money.
Those recently courting the news over Everton takeovers need not apply.
Fingers crossed mate, happily take oil states, Yank billionaires.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
He let go 6 years or so ago..... you do know know Moshiri owns us right? As in the man named in the thread title?
Yeah off course, but BK must be still heavily involved.
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
You talk us down a bit too much mate. The fact is that we already have big time billionaire owners and they’re about to build us a big new stadium. The fake millionaires with CCJ’s have got as much chance as owning Everton as me and you. I’m sure they would like it to happen, but they’re not wealthy enough, Everton is out of their league.
We arent cheap, thats for sure.
Mosh will want his money back, which is around 800m atm, plus theres the whole Stadium money to be found.
We really arent attractive and I honestly think Mosh will struggle to sell us, personally.
