2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[davek]

Being taken over by the 49ers i see, be Jessie Marsch.

Gerrard?

 

[Pootsy]

Mistakes were made, for sure. Not playing O'Brien at RB looks insane now.

But I think the upturn under Moyes also coincides with the dumb luck of having DCL sidelined and Beto coming in with Garner back in the team too.

We'll see how bad a manager Dyche is if Moyes takes us beyond 48 points this season and beats the total for last season...though even then the pressure of points deductions couldn't;t really make a suitable comparison.

I still contest that last season with all that pressure and to get well clear of relegation is one of our best managerial performances in the last 2 decades.

Moyes only has 19 games to do that so not a fair representation.

Half of 48 is 24. 24 points reflects an equal return on Dyches season last season. Therefore if Moyes can reach 41 points this season he has matched Dyche on his best return. Do you agree?

NB I am grateful for Dyche keeping us a Premier League team but he had downed tools this season by not playing better players over his preferred players and not having a Plan B.

 

[canuckblue]

Not being funny mate, but that’s how relegation works.

Well, now I can sleep at night. Many thanks.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Nuts to reading 9 pages of cobblers. No idea if it's been raised yet, but... It'd be hilarious if his early release compo scheme was what stopped him taking a save us job elsewhere. Gardening leave I believe it is called. So a side in trouble might have to cover his Everton wedge on top of the saviour cash and that's pressure to deliver.

 

[Gilbert..]

Moyes only has 19 games to do that so not a fair representation.

Half of 48 is 24. 24 points reflects an equal return on Dyches season last season. Therefore if Moyes can reach 41 points this season he has matched Dyche on his best return. Do you agree?

NB I am grateful for Dyche keeping us a Premier League team but he had downed tools this season by not playing better players over his preferred players and not having a Plan B.

Thats where the problem lies. I reckon id even class myself as a dychette last season. He got lots of credit. However that was last season and as far as im aware they dont let you stay up on the previous seasons performance. I can remember posting a few weeks into the season it never felt right. Roll on a few months and it stank. We were Burnley in 2022 under Sean Dyche. Heading straight to the championship. He had zero ideas how to change it. The points tally was decent enough last year but there were 3 diabolical teams. This season there were possibly 3 or 4 and we were one of them under him. He undid all the credit he got from last season aswell because he couldnt handle any crtiicism. Posted earlier he came from years at Burnley where he had smoke blown up his backside. Question him and his tactics and he spat his dummy out. I btw see the same attitude from the Aussie fella at Spurs. Hates not being told he's not great even though his team has one single game plan and if that doesnt work he's clueless.
They're basically arrogant managers being found out and not liking it.

 

[davek]

Moyes only has 19 games to do that so not a fair representation.

Half of 48 is 24. 24 points reflects an equal return on Dyches season last season. Therefore if Moyes can reach 41 points this season he has matched Dyche on his best return. Do you agree?

NB I am grateful for Dyche keeping us a Premier League team but he had downed tools this season by not playing better players over his preferred players and not having a Plan B.

Ilm happy to concede Moyes is the better manager.

If he runs up 24 points before the end off the season...which he will...we'd still have to try and factor in the intangibles of the pressurised situation Dyche faced. No other Everton manager has has the handicap of trying to stay n the division with an 8 point deduction...which was calculated at 12 in total over the course of the season.

It was a season where only a handful of managers would have put up with the situation.

 

[davek]

Should be restated once again before the thread is closed.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Should be restated once again before the thread is closed.

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And that was when it was still raw.

Doucoure was correct. In years to come, more and more will appreciate.

 

[davek]

And that was when it was still raw.

Doucoure was correct. In years to come, more and more will appreciate.

I think the vast majority of people appreciate what Dyche did here at the same time as wanting him gone.

Then there are others...

 

[Neiler]

Gerrard?

Be very American, Hollywood!

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

This thread is hotter than Sean Dyche after he falls asleep on a Florida beach with no suntan lotion!

 

[Benno]

For what it’s worth I thought he was excellent on the Everton edition of a league of their own. It would certainly helped him at Everton if fans had seen that side of him.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Ilm happy to concede Moyes is the better manager.

If he runs up 24 points before the end off the season...which he will...we'd still have to try and factor in the intangibles of the pressurised situation Dyche faced. No other Everton manager has has the handicap of trying to stay n the division with an 8 point deduction...which was calculated at 12 in total over the course of the season.

It was a season where only a handful of managers would have put up with the situation.

handful my tuckus, it was two. Us and forest. and we got whacked a second time. Line up the Everton firsts I says.

 

[Zatara]

Best manager ever @Nymzee

Sorry, run out of bait...

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

This is just you confirming AGAIN you have no class.

At least he doesn’t go around falsely accusing other posters of being racist after losing an argument, which is your sort of ‘classy’ behaviour.