Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%

  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%

  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%

  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%
  • Total voters
    956
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Chill your beans lids, he's gone in the summer and he knows that himself, the last 2 months have been a pathetic attempt at him trying to save face because he knows he's gone in the summer, blaming everybody but himself at the best club and best squad he's ever had.

I don't care what anyone says, he has the best squad outside the top 6 at his disposal and he's been found out as a pi$$ poor manager.
 

nsno-chris said:
Mert, it’s *you’re

And you’re buckling mert, seeing as you don’t know who was managing us for that game

Arsenal game was over inside 15 minutes fam, far worse performance
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No mate, Soton away was far, far worse...trust me on that.

So anyway...back to Sams signings v RK signings...
 
kenada_blue said:
Tis why I've more hatred for Walsh and Koeman than I have for the fat one.
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Actually hate Koeman much less than the other two. Walsh has obv had a huge influence on signings. Koeman can take half the blame for that only, but Walsh continues to steal a wage and Allardyce is pissing himself laughing at the club lining his pockets with millions for nothing.
 
Lob said:
Nope, what it shows is that Allardyce has a worse record in his last 9 games than Koeman did in his last 9 games which lead to Koeman getting sacked, however Allardyce has spent another 47 Million on top of what had already been spent and even with him trying to steal credit for the West Ham win, we still have the worst records of shots for and against and chances created in the premier league and are sitting just 7 points above relegation.

But none of it is his fault of course. It is everyone else's.
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His spend is nothing compared to Koeman's - and even one of those signings is better than 90% of his.

And you're making out that Koeman was just sacked for 9 bad games. He wasn't. He was sacked for blowing £200+million up the wall and having no idea (remember he played DCL right wing back? Or Vlasic CM?)

And i don't care for shots per game and that guff. Im more concerned about wins and losses. We win or draw more than we lose, then I'm happy.

Also, 7 points above relegation...but also 6 points from safety, 3 from Leicester (are they relegation threatened?).

And behave with this "steal credit for West Ham". He's not. But if it fuels the fume, keep going.
 

Big Fat Sam said:
You what ?!

Stoke are on 27 points and have home games against us, Burnley and Palace left, plus away games against West Ham and final day against Swansea who'll already be safe by then. I'm confident they'll lose the rest of their games so won't mention them here.
Currently 27 points, they'll beat us (and nobody can argue with this prediction as we've won 1 in 23 away games), Burnley will be stuck in no-man's land knowing they've already bagged 7th, and will likely smash Palace too, plus that Swansea game may be crucial and I wouldn't count out a last day miracle. I can see Stoke getting 37-39 points.

Palace are also on 27, but have an extra game left, albeit against United. They do have very winnable home games against Brighton, Leicester and West Brom, and away games where they play equally poor teams in Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Watford and Stoke.
I predict Palace will end on between 38-40 points. If they beat United tomorrow, I'd be extremely scared for us.

WBA, I think their chances of finishing about us are extremely low given we're 14 points ahead of them and they have 9 games left, of which they still need to face Liverpool, Spurs and United. They do have three of their next four games at home against average teams (Leicester, Burnley, Swansea) so if they are somehow able to pull out three wins then I may start to get worried if we lose to Brighton next week, but hopefully we can win, although I wouldn't count on it. I think WBA finish on about 29-31 points.

Southampton, 28 points at present and have amongst others, have tough away fixtures against Arsenal, Leicester, us, Swansea and Newcastle left to play, plus City and Chelsea at home and a six-pointer against WHU away. They have the toughest run in I feel, and will likely end on between 36-38 points.

Newcastle are on 29 at the moment and have a favourable run-in. Their toughest fixtures left to play at Spurs, Leicester and arguably us away, plus Arsenal and Chelsea at home. They do, however, have very winnable games against Southampton, Huddersfield, West Brom and Watford left to play. Given their fixture I can see them finishing on 40-42 points.

That's the bottom five, meaning we'd need to get another 6 points to finish above all of them.

Huddersfield, Swansea, West Ham and Brighton are all on 30, 30, 30 and 31 points respectively already, so you can guarantee they'll all end up very close or slightly over 40 points.

I think we can forget getting more than 1-2 points from our remaining away games (Stoke, Swansea, Huddersfield, West Ham) as we have a grand total of 10 points gained from away games since the start of March 2017. Home games, can we beat two of Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton? These are all now six-pointers and a loss against either could send us down if they pick up points elsewhere. I am extremely scared for our chances of staying up this season.
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Wow wow ok
I didn’t analyse it that well as you did
Agreed !
 
kenada_blue said:
We've not moved below 10th since he's been in charge. So...no.

Prior to that we yo-yo-ed between 15 and 18.
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But you were talking about our form surely? You said ‘we were in freefall’, not ‘our results in comparison to the teams around us were poor’. You were suggesting - as you have been all season - that we were going down because we were so bad, but our form now is worse than it was then, it’s just that other teams are even worse.
 
Big Fat Sam said:
Actually hate Koeman much less than the other two. Walsh has obv had a huge influence on signings. Koeman can take half the blame for that only, but Walsh continues to steal a wage and Allardyce is pissing himself laughing at the club lining his pockets with millions for nothing.
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Not for me. There's no way Koeman was a backseat driver when creating this squad
 

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