Met him at Chester races a few years ago. I think he was at Sunderland at the time, but when we talked football and/or Everton, it was we this, we that, everything was as though he was still part of the club. Top bloke, brilliant footballer and...
Personally think being captain of the u21s is better for him right now than being about fifth choice for the senior squad. Even though he's fully deserving of being in or around the senior starting XI.