Is Premier League Boring?



TheBigIguana said:
For me it has gotten a little stale. That's a combination of things. First I think it just gets old having the same teams at the top year after year. We've had close to a decade now of some combo of City/Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea and the occasional Spurs or United playing the games that really matter. It's gotten a little better the last couple of years with Villa pushing on and this Forest season but they're not competing to actually win the thing, just finish higher than usual. When you've seen the same "massive" fixture year after year it just feels less massive.

The other piece for me is the style of play from a lot of teams just isn't enjoyable. City, Arsenal and Chelsea have all gone to this really conservative, low risk, suffocate the other team style and it just is so boring to watch at times. On top of that is the gamesmanship that is just overwhelming. Every competent team dives constantly, plays the ref, complains and surrounds the ref, fakes injuries when they need a break, dives to get soft fouls when defending set pieces and whatever other nonsense they can go to for an edge. It sucks watching a sport where a lot of the success is not based around being good at the actual game.

I mean look at Arsenal today. That first goal, yes awesome amazing strike but that opportunity comes because Saka falls over after very minor contact. He got held a little and maybe that's a foul, but he's dived, and he knows he should dive because that's better than actually competing and playing the game. It just gets old.
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I think Guardiolas style of play has played a huge part in damaging Premier League as well as VAR. Our game against City in 2022 summed up everything that's wrong with Premier League. City passing it about side to side but not actually doing anything with it, City relying on a jammy goal, caused by Holgate and Keane. Then Rodri handballs it, and we don't get a penalty. The only reason that it was even made a big deal out of, was because it affected RS.
 
Over the last 5-6 years I can probably count on one hand the teams I've genuinely enjoyed watching. They'd be Guardiola's City, Leeds under Bielsa, Brighton under De Zerbi, Spurs and Chelsea under Poch, Leicester under Rodgers. It was probably no better before that either but I was probably more interested then so more easily entertained. I think as I've got older I've just naturally got less interested
 
Now who doesn't like a good, exciting relegation battle?!

There's nothing like panic in the trenches and battoning down the hatches. I do miss the end of season worries of our recent seasons.
 
JelavicBrate2 said:
I think Guardiolas style of play has played a huge part in damaging Premier League as well as VAR. Our game against City in 2022 summed up everything that's wrong with Premier League. City passing it about side to side but not actually doing anything with it, City relying on a jammy goal, caused by Holgate and Keane. Then Rodri handballs it, and we don't get a penalty. The only reason that it was even made a big deal out of, was because it affected RS.
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FWIW without VAR we also don't get a penalty in that game.

VAR sucks, but people have this weird deal where every bad call is VARs fault and the reality is a lot of mistakes are just the refs making mistakes which will not be going away if we scrap VAR.
 

Just think everyone always thinks the football they watched as a kid was better than the football you watch as an adult.

I thought Zidane walked on water when I was younger, his ‘numbers’ are probably rubbish in today’s game though. There’s probably kids growing up now who thought the Qatar World Cup was the greatest thing they’ve ever seen and that the PL is absolutely amazing.
 
TheBigIguana said:
FWIW without VAR we also don't get a penalty in that game.

VAR sucks, but people have this weird deal where every bad call is VARs fault and the reality is a lot of mistakes are just the refs making mistakes which will not be going away if we scrap VAR.
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Agree and disagree. There is a difference between honest mistakes and blatant corruption. Clattenburgs mistakes in derby game, weren't honest mistakes, they all favoured RS. I witnessed plenty of bad refereeing decisions before VAR, but they were honest mistakes. VAR has just allowed blatant corruption and match fixing in Premier League. Ref against United was deliberately shown wrong angle of challenge. Haaland was only booked for putting ridiculous challenge from behind in Mykolenko, Allan got sent off for a challenge that wasn't dangerous at all. Not 1 Palace player wanted DCL sent off, yet VAR decided it was a sending off. Had we not been given penalty before VAR for Rodri handball, I would of just shrugged my shoulders and said "maybe ref didn't see it". He just didn't want to give pen, couldn't be bothered looking at monitor and listened to unaccountable VAR officials. VAR hasn't improved anything, refs are still not making right decisions. So what's the point in it? Plus VAR has ruined enjoyment of goals such as Tarkowskis goal against RS, because it had to be looked at for 5 minutes. If linesmen and ref didn't blow up for an offside or foul what was the need to look at VAR?
 
The league is corrupt and rigged.

Would have been less boring if Liverpool hadn’t been given a joke penalty every time they were losing a game this year.

VAR has been used to make the league boring which is a shame because it is about as genuinely competitive as it has been for a while crap decisions notwithstanding.
 

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