Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
Can’t be judged until we have seen him perform for a season.
The form and value of the loan will have a bearing on the final evaluation of its worth also.
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The form and value of the loan will have a bearing on the final evaluation of its worth also.
I absolutely accept that he was a disaster at the start of the season, but was looking better towards the end.
We are in the same position as we were last summer. Sell to buy. There will be no incomings until Richarlison or DCL have gone.
We are scrapping over free transfers. That is our market, not young players with potential.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
Exactly.
It can be judged at face value now as good business regardless of how it ends up.
Otherwise you couldn’t say signing Messi on loan was good business in case he did his ligaments in on the first day of the season.
Winks on loan adds a PL capable body to our midfield.
….that would be Lampard and Thelwell if it happens.
Our scouting system has been poor but using Rondon as an example doesn’t really hold up as he was 100% a Benitez signing, it isn’t like we sent scouts to watch him.
Winks could go either way, if he recaptures his form under Poch then he could be one of our better players, could be good for Dele too. Let’s see, seems to be happening though.
Winks could go either way, if he recaptures his form under Poch then he could be one of our better players, could be good for Dele too. Let’s see, seems to be happening though.
Certainly not if he was a plumber but definitely cheap for a Premiership footballer.
The big advantage also is I don't think it would affect our FFP situation or if it did, by very little.
How good will he be?
We have to trust the judgment of the manager.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
I suppose it depends on your initial evaluation of the said player.
I don’t value this cockney particularly highly so I shall wait and see before coming to a conclusion.
It’s entirely subjective beforehand.
He played the majority of league games under Poch when they finished 4th, and their form actually went backwards when he was out injured. Can’t argue direct correlation but they certainly didn’t seem to improve. They lost 8 in 28 that season, then in the 9 games he missed towards the end they lost 5 of them. He played in one game in between and they won it.
In the following season under Mourinho he featured even more heavily and they finished 6th.
Two very different managers who both clearly rated him enough to play him every week barring injury. But Everton who just about survived relegation and haven’t finished anywhere near the top 6 for years are too good for him ?
I don’t get it.
In the following season under Mourinho he featured even more heavily and they finished 6th.
Two very different managers who both clearly rated him enough to play him every week barring injury. But Everton who just about survived relegation and haven’t finished anywhere near the top 6 for years are too good for him ?
I don’t get it.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
Never looked anything more than a useless lump from beginning to end , up to and including the awful tackle and subsequent dismissal that I fervently hope will be his last meaningful action for our club.
Stop signing players who aren’t good enough for teams who are where we ultimately want to be.
dixiesdisciple
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Fair to say my 9 year old lad is less than enthused by this potential deal..?
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