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Just a bit awkward when it's a midweek game sometimes but I'll do my best to have a pint afterwards if it eases the congestion at Sandhills. Take one for the team so to speak

People should have complained then about where they put the rail seats. Standing areas at the front are suiyed to Ultras. Standing areas at the back are suited to the traditional way.

With unreserved seating you could only have 90% of the capacity for the area. Well better though...if youre into the atmosphere that is, crap if youre not. As Bramley Moore has the seating at the front it actually suits Ultra style support. So if Ultras do happen at Bramley Moore then it...

Is that upper or lower that's made up of members?

One reason the aways are better is because you're by different groups of people each time. When it's the same people it goes a bit stale. Always better when it was unreserved seating. We should do that here.

I think it works the other way.

Yeah it is on them to provide the atmosphere now. Quite often people go in wanting the atmosphere but not prepared to anything about it themselves. They just want to join in, but not help start it. When everyone does that then it's silence, after a chance or goal some fans will feel braver...

That's my concern too. You'll still get the chants the whole ground sing along with but my favourite was at the back of the Gwladys Street when there'll just be that area singing, relentless, song after song and all the less obvious chants got sung. I can't see that area at the front being...

Where's the new GT4, back of the Gwladys Street now then?

I'd need to go back to have a look so I maybe completely wrong here but I'm wondering if the roof structure is not attached to the stand. If so it could mean that if we expanded we could add new rows of seats to the back of the East, Gordon West, and Southall stands without having to mess...

It was regularly sung in the Gwladys St that season though but not at the aways or at Wembley. Our support was the opposite to now. All the best songs came out at home with only a limited no. of songs at aways

Apparently it's generally agreed by architects that 60k is the biggest size an all seater stadium can reach before it impacts on quality. Above that and you have to compromise on aspects like closeness to the pitch, comfort, legroom, and viewing distances.

If you want something sung just start it off next match. For me though the real Everton songs are the ones brought from the fans that go, that are started in the coaches, the concourse and the pubs. Eg, Pickford's one. I'm not into to the club adopting songs for us like Here we go, Spirit of...

We've all acted like a Bellend at some point following Everton, and none of us apologise or grovel to return.

It's just the same as a very tall person standing in front of you

The Street End is classed as the lower now rather than the whole stand. Upper and Lower

No chance the upper will be stood up.Theyll be the equivalent of the Upper Gwladys St

The 5000 at front of the South Stand, so about 30 rows.

Not a good look to who?

I don't see the issue with not selling out every week. I remember the sub 20k crowds being a regular thing. I think people are only bothered by not selling out because some random fan of a different team on the internet might say 'ah you're crap you didn't sell out'