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That is daft though - the idea that clubs deserve respect because of what they've won or "their history". Watford may have won flip all, they may have stolen the music they run out to, they may have a kit that is based on the colour that noone else wanted and they may even be the worst possible...

That would probably prevent him being appointed as a manager ever again, as well as do similar things to the agent.

Indeed, which to me was the biggest criticism you could make of him - that his ego drove him to refuse to play in a way that worked, that was great to watch (that Arsenal game at Goodison in his first season for instance) and that everyone (apart from him) clearly believed in.

Perhaps, though there were not that many in the side from his first season that needed binning. If he had kept that same style and signed Deulofeu permanently (or an upgrade on him) we would have done much better than we did.

Martinez's problem was that he found a way to play in his first season and then threw it away for his second and third. If Silva can take us back to that style he and we will probably do well.

its the same leap as the last three leaps

The truly maddening thing is that we all (presumably) want the club to win things and go on to success in Europe, however some seem to be aiming (again) for a level of manager for whom sixth would be a fantastic achievement.

Phil Brown: P W D L Win % Bolton Wanderers (caretaker) 22 September 1999 19 October 1999 6 4 1 1 66.7 Derby County 24 June 2005 30 January 2006 33 7 14 12 21.2 Hull City 4 December 2006 15 March 2010 157 52 40 65 33.1 Preston North End 6 January 2011 14 December 2011 51 15 15 21 29.4 Southend...

Yes, and of course Phil Brown started a season fantastically as well.

that and his claim to fame isn't that he almost kept Hull up

I'd rather lick my own eyes out of my head than have him as manager