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In terms of an Everton Manager I have to agree. Plenty weren't happy with Martinez and Koeman appointments. But they were both given way more of a chance (reasonable period of time)by the supporters than this lump. He's a total fraud of a manager. He thinks he's doing well having us mid table...

After a decent start, admittedly no. But has age, and time to develop, on his side.

Yep Jags just shades it over Williams. Just! Can't wait for Keane to be partnered with a centre half who can run and head it. Ps. Jags has been good for us down the years. But time waits for no one.

I'm like get Jags out. Then get Williamz out. Then get Jags out again. Dear oh dear. Get us another centre back please!

Koeman gambled on us being ok this season. Bringing in just Keane was a massive gamble. Reliance on Jags and Williams?? What the actual.......??

Enough now. The utter folly in not getting another Centre Back in the window. He should be a back up Centre Half at best this season. What a mess.

This is where we're at with Williams I'm afraid. Jags is actually preferred (and on merit by the way). For some reason Williams thinks he can just step through players. Rolled so easily today (albeit by a quality striker).