07-09 Team

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It didn't seem to attract much praise at the time but have the subsequent years and the harsh reality of the premier league given you a greater appreciation of the 07-09 team and what they accomplished (relative to premier league Everton not historical Everton)?

They're never spoken of as fondly as the 95/96 vintage (even ignoring their trophy win) or even the 04/05, 13/14 teams. I'd argue however that they were probably our best prem side for quality of football, consistency, and individual player ability.

Jagielka is arguably still our best CB now even after countless efforts to replace him, a decade ago prior to a cruciate ligament injury you could argue whether he was even the best CB in the team! When you see some of the defenders playing for us now, and dare I say at the RS too, you can see what an absolute quality pair Jags and Lescott were back then. Ditto for Baines.

Lavish sums have been splashed on McCarthy Gueye Schneiderlin Klaasen Siggurdson, we've also seen Cleverley Barkley Besic in our central midfield too. Can anyone honestly say that any of these players during their time at Everton can even hold a candle to Arteta Pienaar or Cahill?

Whilst we watch 150 million being spent and we line up with Niasse and Calvert Lewin up front, remember a peak Yakubu and Cahill up top with Johnson, and young injury free Anichebe and Vaughan on the bench?

When you add in solid pros like Neville Carsley Yobo Hibbert and Osman plus Fellaini (ok I never liked him but he's still in every United and Belgium squad) you begin to see that what was derided as a squad of 'hard working servants' actually contained far more quality than the one assembled now and could probably toy with any Everton team created by Martinez of Koeman since.

Perhaps that is why they qualified for Europe 3 years in a row, saw off Liverpool over 2 legs, and reached a cup final.

Has your opinion of that team, the individual players, Moyes, changed over time after watching what has come after them?
 
I crave the Arteta Pienaar Cahill axis in their peak.

I think we could have won the cup final had Jags not been injured too.

Jags Arteta Yakubu and Anichebe all struck with ACL injuries in one season. An entire spine ripped out of our best team just as we needed it. Still made the cup final even though some fans blame Osman/Moyes for not beating a Chelsea side that had not a few days earlier almost beaten the greatest Barca side of all time over 2 legs.
 

I crave the Arteta Pienaar Cahill axis in their peak.

I think we could have won the cup final had Jags not been injured too.

We would have probably won the cup if Chelsea hadn't been robbed of their place in champions league final by a shocking performance from the referee in that semi final.

I swear it must be part of the refereeing oath to screw over Everton, directly or indirectly.
 

We would have probably won the cup if Chelsea hadn't been robbed of their place in champions league final by a shocking performance from the referee in that semi final.

I swear it must be part of the refereeing oath to screw over Everton, directly or indirectly.
Sounds about right.

I'd love to see us do anything of note just once. That was the closest I'd ever seen us, and we even made a record quick goal. I genuinely believed in that moment our time had come.
 
Undoubtedly a far, far better team than anything we've seen since. I enjoyed that period and respect the players you mentioned.
Ultimately though we still won nowt.

Yes they won nowt but so did the Liverpool teams of 08/09 (Mascherano Alonso Torres Gerrard Reina) and 13/14 (Suarez Sturridge Coutinho Sterling). So did Spurs with Bale Modric Van der Vaart and Kane Alli Eriksen now.

Ultimately unless you are Chelsea United or City, no one in the prem is winning many trophies at all. (Honourable mention for FA cup specialist Wenger)
 
Really good squad of players that gave everything for the shirt.

Moyes was fantastic at getting sub-par players to play at a level which would have otherwise been unattainable.

Were they sub par though? Do we underestimate the quality they had? We always saw Cahill Arteta Jags as bargain bin made good but were they actually just some of the better players in the prem?
 
Yes they won nowt but so did the Liverpool teams of 08/09 (Mascherano Alonso Torres Gerrard Reina) and 13/14 (Suarez Sturridge Coutinho Sterling). So did Spurs with Bale Modric Van der Vaart and Kane Alli Eriksen now.

Ultimately unless you are Chelsea United or City, no one in the prem is winning many trophies at all. (Honourable mention for FA cup specialist Wenger)
Agreed , however it's all about winning and while that was a damn fine team, I won't overly exalt a team who, ultimately failed. As I've said though seen nothing better in an Everton shirt since.
 

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