2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

[Brett Angell Delight]

The only frustrating thing about the last 6 or 7 weeks, is that despite building a 15 (FIFTEEN) point gap to the bottom 3, and putting together a 7 game unbeaten run, we are still 16th in the table !

Feel like we deserve a bit more from the effort we've put in recently. But still plenty of time to move up a few places.

The difference between an incompetent (or burnt out, depending on your leanings) manager and a competent (if uninspiring) one.

Even if we'd just managed to cling onto the 2-0 leads against Bournemouth and Villa we'd be 12th, behind Brentford on GD.

Ultimately, though, we'll survive comfortably and kick off at BMD in the Premier League. I'll take that.

 

[Gilbert..]

Right then, @Loadsofchemistry is right, we need Southampton to pick up points against someone other than us so we don't end up the wrong kind of footnote!

Well they drew quite a few that season Derby so a few are on the list and at least Southampton beat Ipswich aswell few weeks back.
It doesnt look good for Dyche more than Everton. Southampton beat him twice this season. League and cup.

 

[Timbucktoo]

I think the rhetoric about this over the last few weeks has got a little bit out of hand to be honest. Loads of clubs have come up in recent years and had a good go in the PL. You're not going that far back to find Villa and Newcastle in the Championship and they've both qualified for the CL since coming back up. Forest could do the same, and Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Fulham etc have all established themselves again. There obviously is a gap between the PL and the Championship - that's the whole point of having divisions really - but I don't buy this stuff about it being completely impossible to bridge it when you come up. One thing that's been ignored a bit is that both Ipswich this year and Luton last year have come up with squads full of players who played with them further down the pyramid. Clubs like that are always going to find it very hard to compete at the top level.

I think the way these last two seasons where the teams that came up were so far off staying safe might be a sign of the days when Brentford, Bournemouth etc come up and establish themselves in the PL may be fewer. Those sides have shown that it can be done, but when you see teams come up automatically like Southampton did last year, and see how far off competing in the PL, it makes you wonder if we`re not so far away from having it that the same 3 up, go down 12 months later. I always expect the team that won the playoff final might be a bit off the pace, but you`d expect a lot more from teams like Leicester and Southampton who have had runs in the PL not so long ago to be able to put up more of a fight.

 

[Loadsofchemistry]

Did we drop points to Derby in their record breaking season?

No mate. 2-0 away Arteta and yakubu
1-0 at home Osman.

 

[Lanolin]

I think the way these last two seasons where the teams that came up were so far off staying safe might be a sign of the days when Brentford, Bournemouth etc come up and establish themselves in the PL may be fewer. Those sides have shown that it can be done, but when you see teams come up automatically like Southampton did last year, and see how far off competing in the PL, it makes you wonder if we`re not so far away from having it that the same 3 up, go down 12 months later. I always expect the team that won the playoff final might be a bit off the pace, but you`d expect a lot more from teams like Leicester and Southampton who have had runs in the PL not so long ago to be able to put up more of a fight.

I think one season is way too early to say it to be honest. The 3 that came up looked poor on paper and so it’s proved, I mean Leicester in particular are basically the same core squad as got relegated 2 years ago but without all the best players.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

People often say this, I'm not so sure myself.

I figure every team play eachother twice.

Last season we earned 48 points. 36 the season before that. And 39 before that.

Taking our lowest total there - very few teams will have gone down in the 30+ years of the Prem with 36 points. I make it only Newcastle and West Ham in the last 25 or so years.

So while it might feel lucky, particularly last season and this given how bad the bottom 3 have been - we'll have earned well enough points to be clear any season.

I think we've been safe this season since beating Crystal Palace. Part of that is factoring in how bad the bottom 3 are, so I kinda get the shout - just not sure 'We've been lucky the bottom 3 so bad' when we've ultimately earned the points generally required to stay up 95% of the time.

Fair play for doing the maths. My view has probably been influenced heavily by how stressful I’ve remembered the last few seasons being.

Hopefully we never have to make one of these threads again, and eventually it’s replaced by a European fight thread.

 

[West Side Charlie]

Fair play for doing the maths. My view has probably been influenced heavily by how stressful I’ve remembered the last few seasons being.

Hopefully we never have to make one of these threads again, and eventually it’s replaced by a European fight thread.

Yeah, that Nick Pope save in the Newcastle Leicester game, his fingertips saved us. I know you are relegated over the whole season but there are the moments you remember and that was one for me. The DCL header against Palace too. The word stressful is bang on I think, I'm relaxed now but I still look at the table and shudder to think where we might be now if Moyes didn't come in.

 

[neil999]

Actually disappointed there is no everton this weekend

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

Actually disappointed there is no everton this weekend

Especially when you see some of the teams left in the cup. We could have had a decent run this year.

 

[perth_blue]

Wolves must be confident of their ability to stay up. Relatively strong line up they've put out, with the potential to go to 90 minutes.

 

[knowing your history]

Wolves must be confident of their ability to stay up. Relatively strong line up they've put out, with the potential to go to 90 minutes.

Cunha lost his head again right at the end, sent off for punch/headbutt/kick so minimum of four game ban so Wolves are a long way from being safe again as one of those fixtures is Ipswich away.

 

[hoppy]

Cunha Sent off for wolves one of their best players misses Everton game next week

 

[James Patrick]

Cunha lost his head again right at the end, sent off for punch/headbutt/kick so minimum of four game ban so Wolves are a long way from being safe again as one of those fixtures is Ipswich away.

Will miss our game so thats a bonus.

 

[maccavennie]

Cunha lost his head again right at the end, sent off for punch/headbutt/kick so minimum of four game ban so Wolves are a long way from being safe again as one of those fixtures is Ipswich away.

It really was a 2 punch, stamp, headbutt combo wasn't it

 

[MikeH72]

If Wolves appeal the red card then he’ll play against us won’t he? I haven’t seen it, would they even be allowed to appeal it if he’s basically battered someone?