2024/25 Relegation Thread

[wibblewobble]

I also think many people are too quick to compare Ipswich to Luton. The only similarity is that it had been a long time since being in the top tier and they weren’t necessarily expected to be promoted when they were (although Ipswich were tipped for playoffs by many in preseason)
However, Ipswich’s promotion campaign was much stronger than Luton’s. Luton came up via playoffs and way off the auto places, while Ipswich finished a very close second with an impressive points tally and scored about 40 more goals than Luton. Ipswich also seem to have more resources, spending much more and bringing more players in, while Luton barely spent anything as they had to fix their stadium.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

no game is easy tho mate

That's not true, we're an easy game.

 

[Del-boy]

We’re going down this season. I think it will go down to the last game. We will have a nice send off at Goodison and a sense of optimism but then a week later we will lose away and that will be it.

After that there will all be crestfallen and it will be the worse thing ever. Then a week before the Championship season we will all be up for the fight to get us sent back up and playing in a new stadium.
However, Everton being Everton we will probably default on the loans a week before our first game in the new ground. The stadium will be taken over by a private equity group who will charge sky high fees and rents that we can’t pay.

So we end up playing our first Championship game back at Goodison. It’s the Everton way.

 

[Ring master]

We obviously need to get points and quick, as we dont know if we have a futher 2points deductions to come or not

 

[Micky_T]

I wouldn't be surprised if Erling Haarland has already scored as many goals in 3 games as any Everton player will score all season.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I dont think there's a danger of that. He's a good man-manager. Tarkowski won't allow that to happen and he's very influential...as is Coleman who also supports Dyche.

We dont have to worry about players tanking games to get shut of Dyche. They'll give him everything they've got.

I hope your right mate.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Wr have a bottom 3 squad, without a good manager we are knackered, are there 3 worse managers than Dyche, Martin is one, are there 2 more?

 

[paultheblue]

I do think there are some positives from yesterday certainly the football we played was better than any seen for a few years .
Dyche made the big mistake of taking Ndiaye off too early, if he could last 80 minutes I am sure he could do another 10.There were others that were out on there feet Tim and O'Neil for starters
Also DCL had a great game( and I am not his biggest fan) should have stayed on.
I felt Dyche though blaming players for not keeping up the hard work actually took his eye off ball thinking the game was won took players off so they could milk the applause rather than tactical reasons.
When they scored their first the whole crowd went into panic mode you could smell the fear.
Also what other club passes the ball back to the keeper from a kickoff so he can launch it down field?

 

[Kirkles]

I expect Dyche to continue his 35 percent win ratio , that keeps us up.

 

[knowing your history]

I think a big difference with Burnley is that Southampton are more ruthless and unlikely to stick with the manager if he doesn’t produce. Southampton see themselves as a team, rightly or wrongly, that should be in the top tier, while Burnley acted like they were eternally grateful to Kompany getting them back up, somehow making him untouchable. Honestly I can’t think of a worse managerial performance to not result in a sacking.

Russell Martin does seem to have that Kompany air of arrogance in thinking his style is going to work while they get thrashed every week. Hard to feel too much sympathy for him if he does get sacked as he's currently having very close relations with Lucy Pinder (that's a memory for anyone who grew up reading lads mags in the 2000s!)

Who knows who Southampton will replace him with though, two years ago they sacked Hasenhuttl early and then replaced him with Nathan Jones which basically relegated them.

I could see Lampard having a serious chance of the job so again don't think Southampton are anything to worry about.

 

[GambianToffee]

Think it's obvious Villa will see us off comfortably in a couple of weeks. Leicester away to come after that - proper early season dogfight.

Southampton at Goodison in the cup sandwiched in between will be a good barometer, too.

Even if Villa beat us, it will be those two which will be the ultimate test for Dyche as it will be those two we're competing with at the bottom.

Beating Southampton is critical and at least a point away at Leicester to get us off 0.

 

[Gilbert..]

I do think there are some positives from yesterday certainly the football we played was better than any seen for a few years .
Dyche made the big mistake of taking Ndiaye off too early, if he could last 80 minutes I am sure he could do another 10.There were others that were out on there feet Tim and O'Neil for starters
Also DCL had a great game( and I am not his biggest fan) should have stayed on.
I felt Dyche though blaming players for not keeping up the hard work actually took his eye off ball thinking the game was won took players off so they could milk the applause rather than tactical reasons.
When they scored their first the whole crowd went into panic mode you could smell the fear.
Also what other club passes the ball back to the keeper from a kickoff so he can launch it down field?

He won the game yesterday.
And then completely blew it with his use of the bench. Brought on two players who are possibly the worst in the squad at ball retention. Left the right back on who had nothing more when he had dixon sitting there. Left the two midfielders on who'd ran themselves into the ground at the mercy of the fresh legged bournemouth subs and left garner and even ashley young who could have came on and at least tracked runners.
He blew it big time dyche.

 

[Sheedy's right peg]

There was a good interview on 5Live yesterday with a journalist from Leicester who covers the football for the local paper.

He admitted that the club is expecting a points deduction for a financial breach so, I that happens, there's a weird bit of hope for us.

 

[wiggum23]

I just can’t shake the ultimate “Everton that” being that we finally get a new owner and fantastic stadium but start it all off in the championship.

 

[davek]

I hope your right mate.

As gutted as I am after that collapse yesterday I see what's there: a manager who's proven he keeps a team up in the PL and a group of players who are better than the one we had last season and the season before.

IMO, over 38 games there's almost no way we end up in the bottom three. I'd place that that possibility at no higher than 5%-10%.