2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

Dublin blue 75 said:
Agreed on the sustainability point. We need to have HUGE commercial team driven increases in revenue for next season to enable us start spending in a PSR compliant way.

Friedkin team must have a 10-15m per season naming rights deal for the stadium pending. Add another maybe 5m a year with smaller commercial deals in the stadium such as food and Bev partners coming on stream and we could be looking at a 25-30m boost in revenue as a baseline.

We have decades of catching up to do after two decades of BK and the last period of him and Moshiri. Scandalous.
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we have a huge rebuild - if we’re in the championship it’s god knows how harder
 


ToffeeTim said:
The lack of investment though makes the times we have spent actual money on players in the last 2 seasons even more frustrating.

Chermiti - who knows he might come good in time, but to spend 15m last summer on a player for 3 or 4 years down the line, was just poor strategy.

Beto - clearly not good enough. It seems we only signed him because of the low / zero up front fee. But the problem is he will still cost 25m and is not worth that money, so it was a bad decision.

O Brien - the decision to spend our remaining summer budget on another centre half will forever baffle me.

Those 3 deals alone are well over 50m quid and haven't improved the team at all.

Yes not much money has been spent in PL terms, but we haven't spent nothing either. The money invested has been wasted, and you can't have that with a limited budget.
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Beto - We only had Calvert-Lewin and the window was days from closing. We hadn't scored a goal, had big doubts over Calvert-Lewins fitness and we had £0 to spend. Literally, £0 upfront. I understand that.

O'Brien - Signed because of ownership shenanigans/John Textor.

Chermiti - time will tell but again, you're talking buttons in the Premier League. Id be surprised if we've paid more than £5m so far for him.

This is a thread about relegation and my view is this team needs big investment to move away from relegation fodder.

Actually, it needs big investment just to be able to field a match day squad from August
 
davek said:
Impossible to achieve?!?!

WTF are they here for if they're not protecting this club's PL status.

I tell you this: if they dont do the business this window they'll never recover their credibility amongst this club's supporters.
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Only the really stupid 1s and people like you who's mind is already made up,

Most sensible supporters realise we cant spend LOADS.

Even if TFG wanted to.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
They scored more goals than them.

But you'll find over the course of 38 games the teams that spend money generally finish near the top and the teams that don't generally finish near the bottom.
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From out last day match 11.

Pickford 30m about 8 years ago.
Doucoure 25m 4 years ago
Mykolenko 18m 3 years ago.
Ndiaye 16m


Valuations of the three loan players options, basically around what they went for a year ago or had agreed this year in Brojas case - so fair evaluations of the cost
Broja 30m
Mangala 30m
Lindstrom 22m

Tarkowski was a free - under contract easily would have cost 15-20m

Gueye, Young cost almost nothing

Branthwaite cost about 1m - but valuation is north of 60m

It's hardly like we have a squad we haven't spent money on mate or who are worth two bob.

Add up the cost say of the side under Benetez also.

What you spend doesn't correlate that much to net spend imo - wages were usually more inductive in that regard.

But the league is littered with under and over achievers and the one factor tends to be ownership effective recruitment and managerial appointments.

For example imagine Brighton's side if they had never cashed in on some players - they would have been competing with the top 6 easily - but they settled ultimately to be what they are.

Conversely united should be winning everything under the sun given their outlay, followed by Chelsea.
 
Eggs said:
….i’ve continually said it’s a lot more difficult with limited spend but it’s when a top DOF earns his big bucks. I don’t see that as ‘strange’, it’s just that I think he gets an easy ride.

It’s a reasoned viewpoint even if it’s only me making it away from Dyche mania.
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Do you think Brands did well?
 

bluestevon said:
From out last day match 11.

Pickford 30m about 8 years ago.
Doucoure 25m 4 years ago
Mykolenko 18m 3 years ago.
Ndiaye 16m


Valuations of the three loan players options, basically around what they went for a year ago or had agreed this year in Brojas case - so fair evaluations of the cost
Broja 30m
Mangala 30m
Lindstrom 22m

Tarkowski was a free - under contract easily would have cost 15-20m

Gueye, Young cost almost nothing

Branthwaite cost about 1m - but valuation is north of 60m

It's hardly like we have a squad we haven't spent money on mate or who are worth two bob.

Add up the cost say of the side under Benetez also.

What you spend doesn't correlate that much to net spend imo - wages were usually more inductive in that regard.

But the league is littered with under and over achievers and the one factor tends to be ownership effective recruitment and managerial appointments.

For example imagine Brighton's side if they had never cashed in on some players - they would have been competing with the top 6 easily - but they settled ultimately to be what they are.

Conversely united should be winning everything under the sun given their outlay, followed by Chelsea.
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Ultimately, Everton are the only team in the Prem to make a profit over 5 years.

We're relying on other teams cast offs/ loans just to put a team out.

Everton have to spend and apologists to that reality are misguided at best.
 

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