Match Thread AFC Bournemouth v Everton Saturday 28th November 3pm

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...but were you always saying too that a real test would come from facing lower end of the table clubs and proving we can get the points off them?

I make that 7 out of 9 points from Sunderland, Villa and Bournemouth (the games against 'lesser lights' since we ended the tough first ten games schedule).

Let's face it, if you cant acknowledge that things have been going well this season then there's really no common rational ground here.

As for Martinez is 'average': were you saying that at the end of season one when he notched up the 72 point record PL total? That'll be a better test of your 'consistency' I reckon.
Dave, Martinez also saw the decline of Wigan to eventual relegation.

That 72 points is about as relevant as his time at Wigan now, move on.

Things are going 'well' in comparison to the absolute rubbish Martinez served up last season.

This season is just your average, run of the mill season that we've been having every year for about the past 10 seasons (excluding when Martinez managed to get this group of players a bottom half finish).

Please for once just acknowledge the man's shortcomings.
 

Tbf, invading the pitch because we scored against Bournemouth is pathetic. The tossers also added more time on.
If you think a few blues getting a bit over excited due to us scoring what we thought was a 95th min winner is pathetic then maybe you need to not bother any more. Also, the restart was delayed due to it, but no extra time was added due to it. It was down to the substitution and the fact the added time is a minimum anyway.
 
The ref stopped the game when we scored.

The pitch "invasion" and Gibson sub all took place while the game was stopped so why would he add on extra time?

It's not an exact science and only about 15 secs over the minimum (not 3 mins ffs) and played on as an attack was developing as they all do so would have been game over if we could have defended properly.
 
The ref stopped the game when we scored.

The pitch "invasion" and Gibson sub all took place while the game was stopped so why would he add on extra time?

It's not an exact science and only about 15 secs over the minimum (not 3 mins ffs) and played on as an attack was developing as they all do so would have been game over if we could have defended properly.

Think I'm right in saying that any sub means an extra 30 secs added on mate.
 
Don't think anyone can really argue that the referee playing on was justified or our fault. Very poor bordering on worth a report. Think we'd switched off at other points in the game but I don't really blame them for not being tuned in when you believe you've won the game with what have been the last attack if we hadn't scored
 

If you think a few blues getting a bit over excited due to us scoring what we thought was a 95th min winner is pathetic then maybe you need to not bother any more. Also, the restart was delayed due to it, but no extra time was added due to it. It was down to the substitution and the fact the added time is a minimum anyway.
We've scored last minute winners on more than one occasion, against better opposition too.

There was absolutely no need for the bellends to invade the pitch which resulted in a delay to the kick off. It was nothing but attention seeking.

You do not know that no time was added, more than the 30 seconds per sub was played.
 
yes we have no common ground, you know 1 thing I think another

I had my doubts early doors but gave him the benefit of the doubt and yes on the strength of the results I 'bought into' the first season.

all fine and dandy but in real terms I have no requirement, real or imagined to justify myself to you

we differ - end of

in the long term, one of us will be proved right-ish or wrong-ish when history judges the present regime

for that reason I'm out as they say - opinions and all that.
I think the jury is in, tbh. He's been a major success for us in the way we now play our football...football that gets results. Let's piut it this way: other than a small amount of people, no one would wish to go back to having Moyes or a Moyes type of manager at this club. Martinez has moved us on from that archaic nonsense.
 
Dave, Martinez also saw the decline of Wigan to eventual relegation.

That 72 points is about as relevant as his time at Wigan now, move on.

Things are going 'well' in comparison to the absolute rubbish Martinez served up last season.

This season is just your average, run of the mill season that we've been having every year for about the past 10 seasons (excluding when Martinez managed to get this group of players a bottom half finish).

Please for once just acknowledge the man's shortcomings.
Average run of the mill season. We're playing some of the best stuff we've seen from Everton players for over a decade and more.

I'm sorry, this has not been 'run of the mill'.
 
Don't think anyone can really argue that the referee playing on was justified or our fault. Very poor bordering on worth a report. Think we'd switched off at other points in the game but I don't really blame them for not being tuned in when you believe you've won the game with what have been the last attack if we hadn't scored
Should be switched on until the final whistle.
 
No it's not degga, it's an entrenched position out of keeping with the evidence.

not exactly, it all depends if you look at the evidence through the bottom of a half full or half empty glass.
like I just said to the davester when history finally judges Martinez...and it will sooner (rather than) or later. One of us will be found to be right-ish or wrong-ish...I can wait.

XXX.
 

Think I'm right in saying that any sub means an extra 30 secs added on mate.

Well it seems to be accepted, and does seem that they do although i can't find anything in the laws that state that.

However my point is that why would he add 30 secs for a sub made when the game was stopped anyway and not specifically for the sub therefor no extra time was used.

Imagine no goal was scored and the sub was made on 94.00 and the game restarted at 94.30. Thats 30 secs used to make the sub so 30 secs will be added on cause the sub used up playing time. Or if a sub is made at half time, do they add on 30 secs for that?
 
We've scored last minute winners on more than one occasion, against better opposition too.

There was absolutely no need for the bellends to invade the pitch which resulted in a delay to the kick off. It was nothing but attention seeking.

You do not know that no time was added, more than the 30 seconds per sub was played.

It was raw emotion, not attention seeking. Certainly not bellends for it.

Ref added a minimum of 5 mins. We scored with a minimum of 15 secs left. We made a sub so a minimum of 45 secs. They equalised 49 seconds later. Not the fans fault at all.
 
not exactly, it all depends if you look at the evidence through the bottom of a half full or half empty glass.
like I just said to the davester when history finally judges Martinez...and it will sooner (rather than) or later. One of us will be found to be right-ish or wrong-ish...I can wait.

XXX.
I just wanted to see if I could pull you back in after you said you was out. I seduced you with my claptrap baby x
 

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