Champions League revamp

[mmmmsnouts]

If we haven't declared war on America by Thursday then we have truly bottled it.

What, two decisive losses weren’t enough? (Delia voice) LET’S BE HAVIN YA

 

[Goat]

What, two decisive losses weren’t enough? (Delia voice) LET’S BE HAVIN YA

Lets see how you cope with an away tie!!!!!!!!

 

[Efcjake]

If we haven't declared war on America by Thursday then we have truly bottled it.

The last time the Yanks got us this riled up we burned the white house down.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

Lets see how you cope with an away tie!!!!!!!!

Once our troops figure out what a “straightener” and a “car park” and a “Morrison’s” are it will all be over

 

[Martin Alvito]

What, two decisive losses weren’t enough? (Delia voice) LET’S BE HAVIN YA

Ah, but they have Malcolm Tucker:

"We burned this tight-arsed city to the ground in 1814, and I'm all for starting with you, ye frat..."

 

[Efcjake]

Bruh, you might have AR15s, but have you seen my people wield a patio chair?

No Russians with MMA gloves but they will do

 

[Goat]

No Russians with MMA gloves but they will do

Naughty them.

 

[Efcjake]

Naughty them.

Didnt see Zenit or CSKA jumping on this did you?

 

[Gilbert..]

No, I think you'll get shrewder Yanks.

Let's be direct about it - the ringleaders have been exposed. Surely Perez is staring down the barrel of a no-confidence vote. His enemies must be salivating at the chance to break his stranglehold on the club. Woodward is gone for incompetence - whether his or the Glazers', we're never likely to know with certainty.
Kroenke is quietly withdrawing as gracefully as possible under the circumstances. FSG looked, and looks, tone-deaf.

But the money is still out there, waiting to be scooped up. Fortune favors the bold, and all of that. It'll take a lot more planning, negotiating and listening to pull it off, but there will be other Yanks that think they've learned the lessons of today, and have a plan.

If you ban the Yanks specifically, sooner or later it will be the Chinese, or the Indians, or the Russians, or a group of Brazilians or Argentines or whomever in their place. If you ban them all, and go it alone to 50+1, sooner or later you will lose your pre-eminent position in the game due to money flowing elsewhere, and with it your ability for self-determination.

So you're going to need a broad-based solution across borders. What I think true fans have seen in the last 48 hours is that these people pose a clear and present danger to the game. It's up to those fans to make their voices clearly heard by their clubs, and organize to take action if there are not real reforms taken to protect the game.

Otherwise, you will most assuredly lose some of the character of your football, the same way that our college football and basketball lost many of its traditional rivalries in the last major conference reorganization. That, by the way, was about the same issue in the end - chasing and monetizing eyeballs.



I think that this is more likely to take the form of solutions that those clubs find unappetizing than explicit punishments, with the possible exception of driving some of the principals out of the game.

Oh without a doubt. To much money. But i said for a while. This has been a PR disaster on a scale i havent seen for a while.

 

[emir]

Why?

City/Chelsea were forced into signing for this. It wasn't their initiative. This was doing of the American owners of Liverpool, United, Arsenal and Spurs. They deserve the punishment and blame, rather.

 

[Big_nev]

Liverpool, United , Spurs and Arsenal - yes.

City and Chelsea - no

Can't believe the absolute stupidity at play here in which two sides who have bought their way to the top and taken European qualification spots away from the rest of the league are now being painted as the good guys.

We've jumped the shark that much we have Pep Guardiola talking about a fair competition. Everybody loving the Premier League when they tried to charge us £15 a game in the middle of a 'kin pandemic.

We've got Newcastle fans trying to sell their arse to Saudi Arabia in the hope they too can buy up a spot at the top. Where does it end?

 

[Goat]

City/Chelsea were forced into signing for this. It wasn't their initiative. This was doing of the American owners of Liverpool, United, Arsenal and Spurs. They deserve the punishment and blame, rather.

I find the opinion that City and Chelsea were forced a bit laughable friend.

I doubt they were as keen as some clubs, cos debts don't really concern either owner, but nobody forced them to do anything and if sanctions happen, which they wont, IMO, they should face the same punishment, all 12 of the scabs.

 

[LABlue2]

1 year ban from the CL, 25m fine each (to be distributed/held in reserve for clubs in the Championship and below) and 10 point deduction for next season sounds fair.

 

[Goat]

1 year ban from the CL, 25m fine each (to be distributed/held in reserve for clubs in the Championship and below) and 10 point deduction for next season sounds fair.

If you think UEFA are banning City from the CL after patting them on the back and welcoming them back, then I dunno what to say mate.

I think there will be an appetite to punish somebody, but then if you punish 1, you have to punish them all and I'm not sure theres an appetite from UEFA and I think The Premier League consider it an attack on UEFA rather than themselves. But we will see which way the wind blows in the next few days.

As I've said though, we shouldn't rest on our hands thinking we have won, we, somebody, needs to make sure nothing like this can ever happen again, by using the law.




Was reading on Bluemoon that maybe City was a double agent sent in by UEFA to get intel, it did make me chuckle.

 

[Goat]

If anything happens regards sanctions I would imagine any punishments will be suspended for a period of time.

But then I honestly see this whole thing being brushed under the same carpet that the CL reforms have been.