Champions League

[summerisle]

They'll find anyway to try and shoehorn in any failing 'big 6' club.

Six Premier League clubs may play in Champions League from 2024 onwards​

Exclusive: Uefa proposals would see teams play 10 group games each, while Europa League may be reduced in size

Premier League clubs discussed for the first time on Thursday new Uefa proposals for expanded European club competitions post-2024 which would potentially see six English clubs in the Champions League — the top four plus two upgraded on historic performance.

An option put in front of the 20 clubs on the February shareholders’ call on Thursday afternoon, one of the so-called “Swiss model” ideas, would see 36 clubs in a new look Champions League post 2024. Those clubs would each play 10 group games, with fixtures based on seeding, and be placed from first to 36th in a league table at the end of the stage.

Critically, qualification for this new Champions League could be earned by clubs finishing outside the top four by Uefa co-efficient – a metric measuring historical performance. Under the 36-team proposal, the Premier League would be given seven places in Europe: four in the Champions League, two in the Europa League and one in the new Uefa Europa Conference League to be launched from next season.

Any club finishing outside the Premier League’s top four automatic Champions League places — but in fifth to seventh place — could potentially be upgraded to the Champions League by virtue of their co-efficient. For example, should Manchester United finish seventh in the Premier League – only good for an automatic Uefa Conference League place, they could see their co-efficient “boost” them up to a Champions League place. Any Premier League club finishing outside the top seven would be unable to qualify for European football, regardless of their co-efficient.

It means that depending on the final Premier League position of certain clubs, and the strength of their co-efficient relative to clubs across other European leagues in equivalent positions, there could be as many as six English Champions League teams in one season. That would consist of the top four automatic qualifiers and two more who have been boosted up by their co-efficient. Their vacated places in the Europa and Conference Leagues would not be taken by other English clubs.

Under this proposal, the total of English clubs in all European competitions would be capped at seven. In a scenario where two extra English clubs are boosted up to the Champions League there would be a total of six in that competition and one in the Europa League.

Of the 36-team league playing 10 matches each, an equal number home and away, the top eight clubs would then qualify automatically for the next round, the first knockout round of 16. The clubs placed from ninth to 24th would play off to go into that round of 16. There would be a total of 19 matchdays and 225 matches. There are currently 32 clubs in the Champions League and 48 in the Europa League. Under new proposals that would be adjusted to 36 in the Champions League and 32 in both the Europa League and the new Conference League.

The Premier League clubs discussed the proposals but no decisions were made. They will eventually agree on a set of recommendations which will be fed back to Uefa. There was no discussion of a putative breakaway, the European super league. No model has yet been suggested for the new distribution of revenue.

Uefa’s broadcast contracts expire in 2024 after which the big European clubs led by Real Madrid president Florentino Perez and Juventus chairman Andrea Agnelli are asking for a huge increase in games and a much greater share of revenue for what they consider to be the established powers.
Uefa are fighting to keep control of their most lucrative competitions, the Champions League and the Europa League, as well as the new Conference League but recognise that they will have to make huge changes to appease the biggest clubs.

Fifa has issued a warning that any player who participates in an unsanctioned breakaway competition will be banned from playing in a World Cup finals. Fifa has plans to expand its Fifa Club World Cup and appears to have an informal agreement with Uefa in which they will support one another against any independent breakaways.
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[The binman chronicles]

I would say it's a fix...

because it IS A FIX!!!!

 

[Toast]

It’s crap.

Should be a knockout over 2 legs from the start.

 

[BlueInNZ]

All about money.

 

[PaddyJames]

Pure greed. Its nothing but a money spinner. Ceased being worth anything in the mid 90's. Utd won it in 99 and weren't domestic champions the year before, Rs in 05 finished 5th that same season. Load of rubbish and as corrupt as anything in sport.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Honestly, far more interesting to me is the news today that Germany won't let the RS in. I don't see any way that they can complete the season if countries start treating the UK as the leper colony of Europe.

This proposal tells us nothing that we didn't know already - "big" clubs draw the most eyeballs, UEFA wants to maximize the value of the television contract, and the best way to do that is to find a way to guarantee access to the most-watches clubs.

That's the rationale for banishing new entrants to Pot 4 in the first place - it skews the qualification process in favor of the largest clubs that make it year after year, so as to maximize their probability of making the group stages.

 

[anxiouswarrior]

Hey you guys as a United fan i agree its all about money , but this the rat race we live in , it should be based on league placings but that is for the fairies forever

 

[Blueclouds]

Hey you guys as a United fan i agree its all about money , but this the rat race we live in , it should be based on league placings but that is for the fairies forever

Its will be rubbish, work hard all season finish 5th the rs finish 7th, rs get the cl place. Rubbish

 

[4737carlin]

Sounds crap

 

[WA Toffee]

What a surprise. Clubs threaten to have a breakaway European leage, UEFA announce plans to change champions league into a watered down version of what the clubs wanted.

UEFA's biggest problem now is what do have left to offer the next time the clubs want an even bigger share of the pie?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Was so much better when it was the European cup and you actually had to win your league to get in.

 

[Davidoff]

Not watched a CL game since it switched from terrestrial/sky

 

[marsh]

It’s crap.

Should be a knockout over 2 legs from the start.

Should be a knockout with just 1 leg from the start for me. Champions league was well better after the restart when they just played one off game to decide who went through, none of this away goal stuff or not minding getting beat 1-0 because they had a 2nd leg to play meant teams had to go for it there and then

 

[PaulPowersTash]

I kicked going to CL games into touch a few years ago. I also kicked BT Sport
into touch just before Christmas and watch City via an IPTV stream.
It's a rubbish competition. Bent as corkscrew to protect and generate money
for the cartel clubs. This latest idea confirms that beyond doubt.
The reality is under this new proposed system that you could have a team that has
been relegated out the PL playing 'Champions' League football.
The competition is beyond a joke.

 

[wandyr79]

What an absolute load of tosh.

You haven't done well but because you will attract a 100 million more viewers globally we will let you in, despite not deserving to be in the competition due to, you know, actual performance. It is like saying, to a sprinter, oh never mind you finished 8th in your qualifying round, we like your face and think it is marketable so here is a place in the final.