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Seen people talking a bit about this so I thought it was worth putting up a topic.

UEFA - 13 teams qualified. 6 made it to the knock out stages.

Not really a great showing by Europe so far. Not only did only 6 qualify but only 3 won their groups. I'm not yet ready to claim that this means we're no longer the forces we were but its clear that if there is a gap between europe and the rest of the world its not a very big one. There's an argument that we get too many teams to be made, really.

CAF - 6 teams qualified. 1 made it to the knock out stages.

Awful showing by the african teams. This was supposed to be the world cup they all excelled in and instead they've just completely failed. Cameroon never got a point, algeria never scored a goal. Not pretty really.

CONCACAF - 3.5 places. 3 teams qualified. 2 made it to the knock out stages.

Okay so Honduras only got a point and looked out of their depth against both Chile and Spain but this is a good showing by the North Americans. Both USA and Mexico have looked handy teams.

CONMEBOL - 4.5 places. 5 teams qualified. 5 made it to the knock out stages.

The South Americans have shown their class it must be said. Chile are the only ones to not win their group and that was on goal difference. I heard some complaints, before hand, that it was unfair for them to get 5 places out of only ten teams but those guys have been shut up properly. Especially since there were three teams who didn't qualify who were within two points of uruguay. It's easy to remember that a South American team has won every world cup not held in Europe.

OFC - 0.5 places. 1 team qualified. 0 made it to the knock out stages.

New Zealand ain't embarrassed themselves to be fair. Worth noting they won a play off to get here, too.

AFC - 4.5 places. 4 teams qualified. 2 made it to the knock out stages.

Both South Korea and Japan look good. Both got their world cup first wins on foreign soil too. Asia look an emerging power, really and that can only be good for the game. If they continue to improve they'll have a decent case for winning more places from Europe or Africa.
 

Artetafan said:
Seen people talking a bit about this so I thought it was worth putting up a topic.

UEFA - 13 teams qualified. 6 made it to the knock out stages.

Not really a great showing by Europe so far. Not only did only 6 qualify but only 3 won their groups. I'm not yet ready to claim that this means we're no longer the forces we were but its clear that if there is a gap between europe and the rest of the world its not a very big one. There's an argument that we get too many teams to be made, really.

CAF - 6 teams qualified. 1 made it to the knock out stages.

Awful showing by the african teams. This was supposed to be the world cup they all excelled in and instead they've just completely failed. Cameroon never got a point, algeria never scored a goal. Not pretty really.

CONCACAF - 3.5 places. 3 teams qualified. 2 made it to the knock out stages.

Okay so Honduras only got a point and looked out of their depth against both Chile and Spain but this is a good showing by the North Americans. Both USA and Mexico have looked handy teams.

CONMEBOL - 4.5 places. 5 teams qualified. 5 made it to the knock out stages.

The South Americans have shown their class it must be said. Chile are the only ones to not win their group and that was on goal difference. I heard some complaints, before hand, that it was unfair for them to get 5 places out of only ten teams but those guys have been shut up properly. Especially since there were three teams who didn't qualify who were within two points of uruguay. It's easy to remember that a South American team has won every world cup not held in Europe.

OFC - 0.5 places. 1 team qualified. 0 made it to the knock out stages.

New Zealand ain't embarrassed themselves to be fair. Worth noting they won a play off to get here, too.

AFC - 4.5 places. 4 teams qualified. 2 made it to the knock out stages.

Both South Korea and Japan look good. Both got their world cup first wins on foreign soil too. Asia look an emerging power, really and that can only be good for the game. If they continue to improve they'll have a decent case for winning more places from Europe or Africa.
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Do you think that playing at altitude is having an effect as the majority of South Americans all play at altitude?
 
Matt Damon said:
Do you think that playing at altitude is having an effect as the majority of South Americans all play at altitude?
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The majority of South Americans struggle at really high altitude, though. Argentina let in 6 goals when they went up to Bolivia.

But nothing in South Africa is anywhere close to that high. I guess if they're used to travelling up the andes, even if they get hammered, them the relatively low altitude at south Africa is nothing to them. Like being regularly beaten up by Mike Tyson and then forced to have fist fight with Torres.
 

Yeah I think S America could do w/ 1 more spot. W/ some quality youth teams recently, could see Colombia re-emerging.

As funny as it was, the tyson/torres analogy may be sound.

Asia emerging as well. Could see them continuing to grow. Lord save us if the Chinese gov't ever pushes the game like they do gymnastics to "15" year old girls during Olympic year!

For Concacaf, I mostly would like to see us given a more realistic opportunity at a seed come next wc cycle. The setup has long been tilted to favor Europe (brazil/argentina aside). And it should be interesting to see how FIFA handles this given the pretty poor showing thus far.

Good stuff thou AF.
 
Oceania - UNDEFEATED. Beat that South America.

South America deserves 5 plus a playoff for a 6th.

I kind of like having CONCACAF having 3 plus a playoff (or just 3) and hope it doesn't change. Makes qualifying more exciting. Change it to 4 and the US sleepwalks through qualifying and doesn't get battle tested.

Europe needs to change their qualifying. SA plays a tough team every qualifying match. Europe has trek to Liechenstin San Marino and Andorra. UEFA should be embarrased by these matches.

I would keep Africa at 5 only because there are so many countries in the continent. I would also change African qualifying, in my opinion its the hardest. Given that 1 loss could knock you out every single team goes defensive and African football is dying because of it.
 
Rook said:
Oceania - UNDEFEATED. Beat that South America.
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Heh.

South America deserves 5 plus a playoff for a 6th.
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It's hard to argue that Ecuador wouldn't have put a better showing than the likes of Greece did but, I don't know, 6 out of 10 seems a little too much for me.

I kind of like having CONCACAF having 3 plus a playoff (or just 3) and hope it doesn't change. Makes qualifying more exciting. Change it to 4 and the US sleepwalks through qualifying and doesn't get battle tested.
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Yeah, until any team not Mexico or the US manages to make the knock out stages, three seems to be enough.

Europe needs to change their qualifying. SA plays a tough team every qualifying match. Europe has trek to Liechenstin San Marino and Andorra. UEFA should be embarrased by these matches. .
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I don't mind the system we have to be honest. Yes it means the top guys don't get tested but given how many european teams there are the only alternative is to give the lower ranked teams twice as many matches which I don't like either.
 
Artetafan said:
Heh.



It's hard to argue that Ecuador wouldn't have put a better showing than the likes of Greece did but, I don't know, 6 out of 10 seems a little too much for me.



Yeah, until any team not Mexico or the US manages to make the knock out stages, three seems to be enough.



I don't mind the system we have to be honest. Yes it means the top guys don't get tested but given how many european teams there are the only alternative is to give the lower ranked teams twice as many matches which I don't like either.
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There is 12 countries in SA (however Surniname, Fr. Guiena, Guinea) are like the Estonia, Lativia and Lithuaina and don't amount to much.

You don't have to boot all the Euro minnow but you could open say 2-3 spots for the 10th-12th lowest ranked Euro teams and have qualifiers.
 

Eventually FIFA will copy the idea that the RFU have and run 2 tournaments. The World Cup for the big boys and a secondary comp for the minnows (they call it the plate in rugby) which will give all the teams that just miss out something to do.

Scotland and Wales can organise something for themselves.
 
Just noticed also that all 6 of the European nations in the last 16 are playing each other in that round, so there will be only 3 left in the last 8.

The quater finals line up like this, I think;

1) Europe vs South America
2) South America vs Africa
3) South or Central America vs Europe
4) South America or Asia vs Europe

There is a chance that the semi finals could be an exclusively South American affair, albeit unlikely.
 

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