Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

Seamus Colemole said:
Guys, how do anti-depressants actually work?

I don't know whether they'd work for me or not. I've been self diagnosed depressed since i was 14 (now 39). It's a long story i don't really wanna get into yet but i feel that i'm depressed because of things that have happened to me and they way my life is, the way i am, things i honestly can't do anything about.

Then it seems that other people who are depressed are so despite their life, it's their brain which causes it.

I know i've probably explained that terribly, apologies. I believe anti depressants work on the latter people because they deal with the chemicals in the brain, is that right?

Whereas i i'm not sure if they will work for me because they won't be able to change the fact that i'm me and they can't change that.

I have good days and bad days, up's and down's but the anger and hatred is still there, just soemtimes i manage to bury it deep down and almost forget about it for a little bit, eventually it comes back and just goes in cycles.

I know you'll say speak to a doctor but it's really hard and i'm still building up the courage (i did see one when i was 19 but it just made me feel worse than i was so kinda put me off). I'd kinda managed to level myself out and cope with things for the last few years but last couple of months i've gone really low, almost feel like i've goven up because there is no point anymore (but don't worry, i'm way too scared to kill myself) so that kinda makes things worse because i know i have no way out so i'm stuck like this.

I'm also awful at explaining my feelings, i just clam up and literally cannot speak, this is god damn hard just typing so how can a doctor help me if i can't tell them the problem?

So i just feel so completly stuck and pointless, i'm just drifting along aimlessly, and what kind of life is that? No wife, no kids, isn't that what life's for?
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Make an appointment with your GP, print off what you typed above and take it with you.
If, when you get to the docs, you dry up and can't speak up about your problems, then just pass over the print out to them and say "This is me"

Chances are though, when you get there, you'll be able to talk about it and the printout will be there like a shopping list that you take to the supermarket, not really needed, but there if you do.
 
COYBL25 said:
Your idea of " drop in " sessions is a very good one, but nothing happens / can without referrals from one health care proffesional or another.
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Hi mate, try these they offer free counselling and they may be able to direct you to support groups that you can go along to beaconcounsellingtrust.co.uk
Or www.mind.org.uk, I believe they actually have online support groups.
I know groups are a bit of putting but everyone with their bum on the seat are there because they need support and maybe you can give a bit of support to someone else sharing your experience
 
EFCPaul said:
Had another bad week, things just feel like crap right about now. Hopefully it goes away soon but my frustrations keep reaching the surface. Not sure what to do with myself.
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May sound odd mate but take the time to congratulate yourself, you've got through a week and used your own emotional reserves, think about the moments that got you frustrated and what stopped you going further into frustration. Use that strength, that is what deserves dwelling on not those things that got you frustrated.
 

Smig1878 said:
May sound odd mate but take the time to congratulate yourself, you've got through a week and used your own emotional reserves, think about the moments that got you frustrated and what stopped you going further into frustration. Use that strength, that is what deserves dwelling on not those things that got you frustrated.
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I've signed myself off for the foreseeable future mate, I'm at the end now with that workplace. I will explain in more detail what's happened in the past week later but I've snapped now, I don't even have breath for them now.
 
Smig1878 said:
May sound odd mate but take the time to congratulate yourself, you've got through a week and used your own emotional reserves, think about the moments that got you frustrated and what stopped you going further into frustration. Use that strength, that is what deserves dwelling on not those things that got you frustrated.
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I've signed myself off for the foreseeable future mate, I'm at the end now with that workplace. I will explain in more detail what's happened in the past week later but I've snapped now, I don't even have breath for them now.
 
Basically the past few weeks have been a real struggle, I've had a lot of negative emotions festering inside of me, some caused by my professional life and some by my personal one, that haven't been able to shake even during my down time. It's caused me to be lashing out at people and wrecked my overall state of mind.

I'm owed holidays in work and booked a week off from June 5th (today) to June 11th, basically this entire week off. It's the only thing that's been keeping me going, the thought that I'd soon have some time away from the place to hopefully put some other plans into action. And here's what's happened.

I filled in the request form 3 weeks ago, I wrote on it in front of the manager and supervisor, they were literally right there and then I handed it to them to put in the holiday book and they said it should be fine. Never heard anything more so I assumed that it was all sorted Then today at 9am I get a phone call from them asking why I haven't come in at 8 like usual? I tell them because it's the start of my holiday week I booked. Their response?

"No, it wasn't officially signed off so it doesn't count. You were put on the rotor as usual so you need to come in."

"Why wasn't it signed off? And why wasn't I told about this?"

"Don't know, it must have been sat on the desk and not looked at."

"For three weeks?!"

"Yes."

"Why did no one say anything to me, why did you just let me assume it was all fine?"

"Don't know. But get yourself in."


Absolutely livid, I've completely given up with the place. It's an asylum being run by the inmates. If it's not outright preferential treatment for mates/treatment it's old men squaring up to me and if it's not that it's cancelling my holidays I booked literally on the day they're supposed to start and giving me a crap, take-no-responsibility excuse as to why.

F them, I'm off. Signing myself off with mental health and going all out to find something else with the time I have. Hopefully that job a friend is confident will come through but even if it doesn't I'm not going back there, I will not be treated like that. It's not a persecution complex, it's literally them thinking they can treat me like a lackey and make the rules up as they go along. Screw them, my conscious is clear because I know I've busted a gut every single shift I've worked for them and only ever complained over legitimate issues yet still they think I'm just an idiot who will put up with anything. No chance. I'll go somewhere else and make a success of it because I know I can, because I have the confidence and work-ethic to do well in a lot of jobs. No job is perfect, no job will not have it's frustrations but there's not many job I'll bet anywhere near as disrespectful and bias as this one.
 

EFCPaul said:
Basically the past few weeks have been a real struggle, I've had a lot of negative emotions festering inside of me, some caused by my professional life and some by my personal one, that haven't been able to shake even during my down time. It's caused me to be lashing out at people and wrecked my overall state of mind.

I'm owed holidays in work and booked a week off from June 5th (today) to June 11th, basically this entire week off. It's the only thing that's been keeping me going, the thought that I'd soon have some time away from the place to hopefully put some other plans into action. And here's what's happened.

I filled in the request form 3 weeks ago, I wrote on it in front of the manager and supervisor, they were literally right there and then I handed it to them to put in the holiday book and they said it should be fine. Never heard anything more so I assumed that it was all sorted Then today at 9am I get a phone call from them asking why I haven't come in at 8 like usual? I tell them because it's the start of my holiday week I booked. Their response?

"No, it wasn't officially signed off so it doesn't count. You were put on the rotor as usual so you need to come in."

"Why wasn't it signed off? And why wasn't I told about this?"

"Don't know, it must have been sat on the desk and not looked at."

"For three weeks?!"

"Yes."

"Why did no one say anything to me, why did you just let me assume it was all fine?"

"Don't know. But get yourself in."


Absolutely livid, I've completely given up with the place. It's an asylum being run by the inmates. If it's not outright preferential treatment for mates/treatment it's old men squaring up to me and if it's not that it's cancelling my holidays I booked literally on the day they're supposed to start and giving me a crap, take-no-responsibility excuse as to why.

F them, I'm off. Signing myself off with mental health and going all out to find something else with the time I have. Hopefully that job a friend is confident will come through but even if it doesn't I'm not going back there, I will not be treated like that. It's not a persecution complex, it's literally them thinking they can treat me like a lackey and make the rules up as they go along. Screw them, my conscious is clear because I know I've busted a gut every single shift I've worked for them and only ever complained over legitimate issues yet still they think I'm just an idiot who will put up with anything. No chance. I'll go somewhere else and make a success of it because I know I can, because I have the confidence and work-ethic to do well in a lot of jobs. No job is perfect, no job will not have it's frustrations but there's not many job I'll bet anywhere near as disrespectful and bias as this one.
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It's obviously a complex and lengthy situation at work but if you are feeling this low about it all go speak to your doctor and see what advice and help they can give you. After you do that I'd get in touch with work and speak to HR or whoever is responsible for employee welfare and make them aware of your situation, it may not do much to rectify the present situation but it'll be cathartic and shows you are dealing with a situation you feel outside of your control in an active manor not just getting the hump over an "admin error" and going off sick. Good luck mate.
 
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EFCPaul said:
Basically the past few weeks have been a real struggle, I've had a lot of negative emotions festering inside of me, some caused by my professional life and some by my personal one, that haven't been able to shake even during my down time. It's caused me to be lashing out at people and wrecked my overall state of mind.

I'm owed holidays in work and booked a week off from June 5th (today) to June 11th, basically this entire week off. It's the only thing that's been keeping me going, the thought that I'd soon have some time away from the place to hopefully put some other plans into action. And here's what's happened.

I filled in the request form 3 weeks ago, I wrote on it in front of the manager and supervisor, they were literally right there and then I handed it to them to put in the holiday book and they said it should be fine. Never heard anything more so I assumed that it was all sorted Then today at 9am I get a phone call from them asking why I haven't come in at 8 like usual? I tell them because it's the start of my holiday week I booked. Their response?

"No, it wasn't officially signed off so it doesn't count. You were put on the rotor as usual so you need to come in."

"Why wasn't it signed off? And why wasn't I told about this?"

"Don't know, it must have been sat on the desk and not looked at."

"For three weeks?!"

"Yes."

"Why did no one say anything to me, why did you just let me assume it was all fine?"

"Don't know. But get yourself in."


Absolutely livid, I've completely given up with the place. It's an asylum being run by the inmates. If it's not outright preferential treatment for mates/treatment it's old men squaring up to me and if it's not that it's cancelling my holidays I booked literally on the day they're supposed to start and giving me a crap, take-no-responsibility excuse as to why.

F them, I'm off. Signing myself off with mental health and going all out to find something else with the time I have. Hopefully that job a friend is confident will come through but even if it doesn't I'm not going back there, I will not be treated like that. It's not a persecution complex, it's literally them thinking they can treat me like a lackey and make the rules up as they go along. Screw them, my conscious is clear because I know I've busted a gut every single shift I've worked for them and only ever complained over legitimate issues yet still they think I'm just an idiot who will put up with anything. No chance. I'll go somewhere else and make a success of it because I know I can, because I have the confidence and work-ethic to do well in a lot of jobs. No job is perfect, no job will not have it's frustrations but there's not many job I'll bet anywhere near as disrespectful and bias as this one.
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This is just outright bullying. "Bullying may be characterised as Offensive, intimidating, malicious or insulting behaviour, an abuse or misuse of power through means that undermine, humiliate, denigrate or injure the recipient. Bullying or harassment may be by an individual against an individual (perhaps by someone in a position of authority such as a manager or supervisor) or involve groups of people. It may be obvious or it may be insidious. Whatever form it takes, it is unwarranted and unwelcome to the individual." That's from a really good ACAS guide that is available on their website. Have a read of it.
 
Something interesting I saw on the news yesterday over here. Who knows, maybe some breakthrough is possible?

Did you see this @BiggyRat?

http://www.9news.com.au/health/2017...ent-working-wonders-for-teens-with-depression

Depressed teens treated with radical magnetic brain stimulation

By
Emily Rice
Severely depressed teens treated with radical magnetic brain stimulation

Teenagers have a reputation for being sulky and irritable.

But when occasional moodiness extends into months of persistent melancholy, it can be an early sign a child is suffering depression, according to Monash Health child psychiatrist Michael Gordon.

"Their marks are dropping, they are not socialising, they have withdrawn into their rooms ... their self esteem is low," Dr Gordon said.

Traditional treatment approaches include psychotherapy and anti-depressant medication.

But as veteran mental health nurse Chris Pavlou explained, not all teenagers respond to those options.

"For around 40 to 60 percent this does not work," Ms Pavlou said.

"It is not effective."

Now a team of mental health experts at Monash Health in Melbourne have been given permission by the Therapeutic Goods Administration to embark on a radical treatment approach to adolescent depression.

Known as transcranial magnetic stimulation - or TMS for short - it involves placing a magnetic paddle against the patient's head which emits small electrical pulses.

That energy is thought to stimulate nerve cells in the region of the brain involved in mood control.

So far 13 teenagers have undergone magnetic therapy at Dandenong Hospital in Melbourne's south-east.

The young patients are exposed to the magnetic pulses for five half-hour sessions over a month.

And while still in the early stages of the trial, lead researcher Dr Gordon said most patients have reported a lift in mood.

"A number of people have become less depressed ... when other things have failed or not worked. So we're buoyed by that," he said.

Ms Pavlou has also detected a noticeable change in several of the young depression sufferers.

"It is really really exciting to see the difference in the way these young people feel, how their positivity has come back," she said.

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Meg Stewart is one of those to undergo the treatment. (Supplied)

Year 12 student Meg Stewart is among those taking part, after suffering severe bouts of depression since her early teens.

"It is like a dark cloud that follows you 24-7," the 18-year-old said.

"For a long time I struggled with telling a lot of people. I thought it would make me seem weak and vulnerable."

After being prescribed various anti-depressant medications with mixed results, Ms Stewart decided to try TMS.

While her depression has not been cured, she did experience an improvement in how she felt immediately after the sessions.

"I thought 'why not, I'll give it a shot'. And you know it was a regally positive experience," Ms Stewart said.

TMS is non-invasive, painless and some patients find it so relaxing they even fall asleep during treatment.

But some do experience slight side-effects such as headaches.

Studies on adults suggest TMS is effective on about 30 percent of depression patients for whom traditional interventions have not worked.

The true impact on adolescent mental health is still under examination.

To continue their study, Monash Health is recruiting more teenagers with clinically diagnosed depression.

Ms Stewart is staying positive by focusing on her Year 12 schoolwork and her burgeoning business - Meg's Cakes.

"I bake cakes, so that is kind of my saviour. It's my happy place," she said.

She said her best therapy of all is her loving friends and family.

"I've got so much support around me and I'm really lucky with that."

Those interested in taking part can find out more here.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/health/2017...for-teens-with-depression#gEyfJ1RMPhuSKtFg.99
 

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