Donald Trump for President Thread

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It is possible, you'll have to make your own judgment.

Personally I'm an Ocam's Razor kind of gal, he boasted he liked to do it and around 10 women have claimed he did it so I'm going to go with his likely did it. Doesn't change anything for me though, I was wasn't supporting him before these allegations.

I just want to correct the idea that women who have been groped report it/persue charges and anyone who doesn't is automatically lying.
I hope you didn't get the impression that i was suggesting they were lying because as i will continually maintain, i haven't got a clue on the matter, so much so that i daren't even take a side . as i said to esk above, if i was american, i would not be so loose on my opinion on the matter, and whatever i can say in jest about trump, or question hypothetically comes not from a supporter of him, but as someone who has zero impact on the subject, and therefore, as i will clearly point out, my opinion does not matter.

If it did matter i certainly wouldn't vote for trump for the record
 
Yet everybody ignores the words of Bill clintons victims when they talk of hilary hushing them up.
From polifact this year.
But in the cases of alleged abuse by Broaddrick, Willey and Jones, Hillary Clinton was largely silent. The words she allegedly had with Broaddrick are subject to interpretation. Approving the release of Willey’s letters does qualify as an attack, but using a person’s words against them is a fairly tame tactic. And Clinton did not attack Jones directly.

Overall, we rate the claim Mostly False.
 
Lots of men are pigs, particularly rich, powerful men. We can trade a Clinton for a Trump for a Spitzer for a Schwarzenegger...

Respectfully, these are but distractions. If it were my daughter I'd be under arrest for assault. That's not the important point.

Can't you see how we're all being played by this? How did this get to this point? Isn't anyone even remotely curious about that?

What aren't we talking about when we are talking about Trump's tic-tacs and the Lolita Express?

The debt? Nuclear proliferation? The increasingly imperial government? The militarization of the police? Pick one, or add your own.

Don't you want to walk up to your window, open it up up and say "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

 
Lots of men are pigs, particularly rich, powerful men. We can trade a Clinton for a Trump for a Spitzer for a Schwarzenegger...

Respectfully, these are but distractions. If it were my daughter I'd be under arrest for assault. That's not the important point.

Can't you see how we're all being played by this? How did this get to this point? Isn't anyone even remotely curious about that?

What aren't we talking about when we are talking about Trump's tic-tacs and the Lolita Express?

The debt? Nuclear proliferation? The increasingly imperial government? The militarization of the police? Pick one, or add your own.

Don't you want to walk up to your window, open it up up and say "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"



When the Republicans nominated a reality TV star, they had to know that the election would go down just like a reality TV show.

It's exactly how he won the nomination.
 

I hope you didn't get the impression that i was suggesting they were lying because as i will continually maintain, i haven't got a clue on the matter, so much so that i daren't even take a side . as i said to esk above, if i was american, i would not be so loose on my opinion on the matter, and whatever i can say in jest about trump, or question hypothetically comes not from a supporter of him, but as someone who has zero impact on the subject, and therefore, as i will clearly point out, my opinion does not matter.

If it did matter i certainly wouldn't vote for trump for the record

Strange that, considering just a few hours ago you said the following

As a neutral in all of this i want trump to win.

This is a fair point.

Accusations agaisnt him is essentially dirty tricks by the clinton campaign that is being painted up otherwise by the american media to make trump look worse than he probably is himself.

Thing is, a lot of all this is just fell of crap at the end of it. Like the 'i'll be dating you in 10 years' comment. So that rules out that he is a paedophile point blank, and is very aware of waiting for the consentual age. It is seedy sure, but is he the only person who talks like that in america?

what if he hasn't sexually assaulted anyone in his life? What if he has never met these women before in his life?

Would it still be fair accusations or simply dirty tricks that aren't necessary?
 
When the Republican's nominated a reality TV star, they had to know that the election would go down just like a reality TV show.

It's exactly how he won the nomination.

How and why did the Republican party come to nominate Donald Trump? How in the hell did that happen, anyway?

It seems inconceivable, in retrospect. It's almost like they were under the control of outside forces, as this has resulted in their complete upheaval and utter ruin as a political party, if we are to believe what we are being told. Heck, Labour's in better shape internally than the GOP is right now.
 
Strange that, considering just a few hours ago you said the following

Aye, point out the part where i claim to be right in what i say and offer anything other than a meaningless opinion on anything or ask hyperthetical question?

As i have said above my opinion is null and void as i am not american. Who cares what i think ;) Therefore i can say i want trump to win because i cannot do anything to change that. A simple way of seeing things but it also means i am not going to get into a massive debate about it because i haven't got a clue on the ins and outs of it and anything i say i will self admit is a loose opinion at best.

:)
 
Lots of men are pigs, particularly rich, powerful men. We can trade a Clinton for a Trump for a Spitzer for a Schwarzenegger...

Respectfully, these are but distractions. If it were my daughter I'd be under arrest for assault. That's not the important point.

Can't you see how we're all being played by this? How did this get to this point? Isn't anyone even remotely curious about that?

What aren't we talking about when we are talking about Trump's tic-tacs and the Lolita Express?

The debt? Nuclear proliferation? The increasingly imperial government? The militarization of the police? Pick one, or add your own.

Don't you want to walk up to your window, open it up up and say "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"



Think that is the glaringly obvious that 90% of us fail to notice. What are we not being told, what aren't we debating?

Not just in this area, in anything in the world, whole other discussion but for what we are told and remember to talk about compared to what sails over us or is kept quiet is quite scary that we fail to even notice
 

Bill Clinton created a lot of jobs, you know, that time he was president.

He was President at a great time to harvest the peak of that particular demographic, when the boomer generation was just just entering its peak earning years. Coupled with the low-hanging fruit of the early maturity of the computer in the economy, and the optimism coming out of the collapse of the Cold War, it was a good time to be leader of the Free World. Big Dog was smart enough to go with the flow when he got spanked at the polls in 1994. With his Republican Congress, he managed to roll back a lot of regulation and free up money for investment and growth.

His was an excellent presidency, other than the personal scandals. I voted for him. Twice.
 
How and why did the Republican party come to nominate Donald Trump? How in the hell did that happen, anyway?

It seems inconceivable, in retrospect. It's almost like they were under the control of outside forces, as this has resulted in their complete upheaval and utter ruin as a political party, if we are to believe what we are being told. Heck, Labour's in better shape internally than the GOP is right now.
They've been running on the mantra of fear for decades now. They use fear to whip up national/patriotic emotions. They figured they'd get power by owning brand 'America' and, with the help of Roger Ailes, they were right. They gave hope to millions in rural America but it was based on nothing. When the moderate republicans took notice of how the party was winning support, it was too late. Too many people believe that wrapping them self in the flag and carrying a cross is the only way to 'fix' America.

edit: didn't realize you were American, and most likely know way more about all this than me. :)
 
How and why did the Republican party come to nominate Donald Trump? How in the hell did that happen, anyway?

It seems inconceivable, in retrospect. It's almost like they were under the control of outside forces, as this has resulted in their complete upheaval and utter ruin as a political party, if we are to believe what we are being told. Heck, Labour's in better shape internally than the GOP is right now.

How and why?

I submit that he was doing exactly what the Republicans have been doing for years, but only better (or worse depending on how you look at it).

If you think back to 2008 and all of the out and out lies about Barack Obama that were flying all over the internet, email, conservative radio, and Fox News, you can see how Trump would do well with the right. So many people believed Obama was not even an American on the right. Just pandering to a largely ignorant, bigoted base.

Trump does everything the right has been doing, but in a reality TV way. Scores points by saying he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. I mean that was such a popular things with his base...but it's just a fantasy, isn't it? As if we could actually spend billions (or Mexico for that matter) on building some giant wall on the border that could be circumvented by a row boat. His rallies are 90% out and out lies, yet his base laps it up because it's what they want to hear.

I get the anti establishment thing...I really do. Trump for me was never that guy...he's just a loud buffoon that would make a mockery of the POTUS and our nation.
 
now i say this without attacking or trying to be nasty or anything like that. But do women not throw themselves at men for money? Do women not go out to town of a weekend to pull a footballer or a doctor or something? Or be a wannabe model or anything like that?

I AM NOT SAYING EVERY WOMAN AND IT IS A MINORITY

just to point that bit out before you think i'm being sexist or anything like that, it is a minority here but does that not exist? So to dismiss the idea that any woman would throw themselves at trump simply for money is just as foolish as taking any accusations on face value. My evidence? You really think Trump's wife is married to him for love?

I never said there aren't women who are interested in a man for money (and visa versa). But that has nothing to do with my point.

This does....
Why do you think there needs to be
a what if.
in the case of sexual assault claims?


Do you question the motives of every claimant regardless of the alleged crime or just those claiming a sexual assault?
 
They've been running on the mantra of fear for decades now. They use fear to whip up national/patriotic emotions. They figured they'd get power by owning brand 'America' and, with the help of Roger Ailes, they were right. They gave hope to millions in rural America but it was based on nothing. When the moderate republicans took notice of how the party was winning support, it was too late. Too many people believe that wrapping them self in the flag and carrying a cross is the only way to 'fix' America.

edit: didn't realize you were American, and most likely know way more about all this than me. :)

Funny you should mention Ailes. I wonder who'll get that Trump network up and running?

Ailes is a very smart man who understands this country deeply.
 

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