Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[Tony’s Carp]

I think there's an obvious acceptance that we need new players and, given the contract situations in the summer - between now and then we may well need 10 players. However, mass overhauls rarely work - you only need to look at the likes of Chelsea and how changing everything in 12 months means it taking time for players to bed in etc

I'd say we are looking at maybe 3 players this month (winger, number 10 and possibly a striker if we shift Beto), but I'd say the summer is going to require a bit of thought

Keane, Coleman, Young and Doucoure are all leaving and there shouldn't even be a conversation with any of them about a new deal

You would assume that Calvert-Lewin already knows where he's going and that nothing Moyes says or does is going to change that.

I think there's an argument that Gueye has done enough to warrant another year, although he's practically our top earner currently and I'm not sure he warrants that

You've got the Lindstrom, Mangala and Harrison loans ending too

I absolutely understand the arguments for selling Mykolenko, Patterson and one or two others, but I think I'd be wary about absolute overhaul because of how disruptive it is - processes like this are usually best done over a few windows

Essentially you've got decisions to make about the loans

Lindstrom - I'd have said no until now, but Moyes seems to like him and there may end up being a player there after all. At 20m euros, it might not be a terrible move, but we should also be looking at the market to see if there's better value out there
Mangala - Lad can play, has more quality than most in our midfield, but the agreed price is plain daft
Harrison - Anyway...

We are going to need full backs on either side, maybe a young CB prospect or an old one for cover there, I think Iroegbunum and Garner are decent players and that Gueye has done enough for another year, but there's a lack of quality through midfield at times and I think at least one centre mid will be needed. I'd like to see an attacking midfielder come in this month, but if it doesn't happen then we 100% need that addressing in the summer. N'Diaye is quality, McNeil can be useful, we should hopefully see a new winger this month, so that leaves either buying Lindstrom or going elsewhere for another one, we must assume Calvert-Lewin is leaving and that Beto is gone sooner or later so we are probably going to need two strikers between now and the summer - I wouldn't at all be surprised if we revisited Broja in the summer - clearly he's a long term target of ours and you only need to Google the number of times West Ham were linked with him under Moyes - it became a bit of a running joke there according to my West Ham season ticket holder mate.

Based on all that, you're looking at (ideally) 3 this month and then 6 in the summer - it's necessary, but that's a really big overhaul in a 6 month period and for that reason I'd be against selling some of those with question marks over them like Patterson and Mykolenko for now

I agree that ideally we want a good start on the summer’s business with a couple of permanents this window. At the same time we want to be looking for quality over filler.

The fact we probably need 9-10 players over the next two windows doesn’t daunt me that much. The players leaving will by and large be players who should be leaving, with an enormous wage saving. Not every player who comes in will need to be a starter, many of those leaving aren’t, or ideally shouldn’t be.

Between loans and permanents we actually signed 8 players last summer in the end, and that’s without a pot to piss in. It didn’t feel like a dramatic window or a massive overhaul, more evolution than revolution. Next summer is a big job but not a titanic one, and finally with a budget a massive opportunity.

 

[bluestevon]

I'm with you mate. I'm not for a single moment saying that I'm a fan of Mykolenko, Patterson and McNeil even but I think you want to defer making the changes you don't need to make - those three and Gueye would be on my list to improve upon 18 months from now, but I think you need to try to manage the overhaul - circumstances have dictated that the next six or seven months are going to be a period of enormous change - managing that change to make sure it's of benefit rather a huge disruption is the key. I even thought about Coleman, given he's seen a positive influence, but the lad can't stay fit now and I would expect he may even call it quits himself without any need for a decision.

My gut instinct is Coleman will be offered a place in the coaching setup by Moyes.

Young, Doucoure, Keane you can load into a cannon and fire into the Irish sea

 

[toffeeblue9]

we need to replace mykolenko

we all know doucoure is getting dropped once mcneil is fit

there's no one to replace mykolenko except a very old ashley young

Depends what you mean by "replace" - I think we 100% need to be signing a starting left back (and a starting right back for that matter) as quality in full back areas has been a big issue, but I don't think I'd be selling Mykolenko. If you sell him you'd need to buy two left backs because we'd need cover and that I don't think I have a problem with him as cover, I do have a problem with him as a full back who could be playing for a team who want to progress and play a bit of football, rather than defending in a narrow block constantly

 

[SirBarryHorrrrrne]

Depends what you mean by "replace" - I think we 100% need to be signing a starting left back (and a starting right back for that matter) as quality in full back areas has been a big issue, but I don't think I'd be selling Mykolenko. If you sell him you'd need to buy two left backs because we'd need cover and that I don't think I have a problem with him as cover, I do have a problem with him as a full back who could be playing for a team who want to progress and play a bit of football, rather than defending in a narrow block constantly

Very balanced view. Really makes me think we should be smart and move for Kyle Walker-Peters this month. There will be bigger, much higher profile (and expensive) deals for strikers, wingers and playmakers in the summer. KWP represents an excellent value proposition for a problem position.

Young & Coleman will be released in the summer, and if Patterson isn’t getting the nod now - even with the Caledonian mafia in charge - he’ll never get it

 

[Neiler]

But totally agree to minimise the disruption we should look to get around 3 in this window - 2 is an absolute minimum. Just to make the recruitment in the summer a little more manageable.

Its a limited market though mate.

I dont really want players unless they are seen as key players for the next 2-5 years.

Prefer to go with what we have, if we cant do that.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So you address it in the Summer.

We are dependent on who is available and what our budget is.

My shopping list wouldn't change, I would want a RW, RB/LB, CF and I would look for a CM.

If I CM was available now, that fit the bill, I would get them. My worry would be that we need to replace or retain a lot in the summer and we would default to Doucoure because we had prioritised other areas.

 

[Nymzee]

We are dependent on who is available and what our budget is.

My shopping list wouldn't change, I would want a RW, RB/LB, CF and I would look for a CM.

If I CM was available now, that fit the bill, I would get them. My worry would be that we need to replace or retain a lot in the summer and we would default to Doucoure because we had prioritised other areas.

Prices are notoriously higher in Jan than Summer with people not wanting to let players leave. If there's a CM we like we will wait till the Summer when he should be cheaper. Just common sense really.

 

[ToffeeScot]

I'd target Walker Peters this window as he can cover both LB and RB so let's us move to the summer with Patterson/Young/Myko/Coleman and JOB if we continue with the hybrid 3/4 we did. It will mean that we have a player capable of starting for us post summer but also see if Myko is capable of keeping the starting spot. If not then we can readdress that in the summer after Coleman and Young depart the playing squad.

 

[ValBlue]

He's an improvement on Doucoure there because the ball doesn't bounce off him every time, but he's never gonna be going past DCL as it's just not his game, yeah his stats look very good on creativity but we are a side that massively focused on set pieces es and he literally takes them all. Chances from open play I just don't see him unlocking a defence.

Fair play he'll score the odd blamo from there but - and it's only my opinion he's a decent squad option but shouldn't be starting for any club with any hope if pushing upwards.

As a squad player he's perfect as he can play arguably 3-4 positions as needs must, but he's not good enough to kick down a spot except in a very poor side with no options

If the argument is that he’s a better option as a depth piece to a more dynamic creative midfielder, then I agree completely. Defensively he can come on to help shore up whilst still offering something going forward or try and get a goal with a blammo. But right now, without that (and I don’t think we’ll get said midfielder this window, sadly), he’s the best option we have

 

[jazzy]

Depends what you mean by "replace" - I think we 100% need to be signing a starting left back (and a starting right back for that matter) as quality in full back areas has been a big issue, but I don't think I'd be selling Mykolenko. If you sell him you'd need to buy two left backs because we'd need cover and that I don't think I have a problem with him as cover, I do have a problem with him as a full back who could be playing for a team who want to progress and play a bit of football, rather than defending in a narrow block constantly

Agree. Unless you are going to get a decent fee for Mykolenko keep as cover , especially as he could also cover LCB in a 3

 

[blue in oxford]

i doubt much will be done in this window maybe a winger and another forward if beto leaving
tim and james in midfield contention will improve things there and minutes to armstrong
would send broja and harrison back from their loan deals.
and sell keane if we can
then give moyes the time to find the right players to take us forward

 

[Bedfordblue]

Lads (and lasses), prepare yourselves for a classic ‘we’ll go with what we’ve got’ by the end of the window.

 

[wabisabi]

i doubt much will be done in this window maybe a winger and another forward if beto leaving
tim and james in midfield contention will improve things there and minutes to armstrong
would send broja and harrison back from their loan deals.
and sell keane if we can
then give moyes the time to find the right players to take us forward

Yep to all of this.

 

[DL100]

I really don't get the McNeil isn't a Moyes type player.

For me he is a player i think Moyes will be looking forward to getting back in the team. Works hard defensively, keeps the ball, creates chances and scores goals.

He isn't however a no10.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Lads (and lasses), prepare yourselves for a classic ‘we’ll go with what we’ve got’ by the end of the window.

Are you nailing your colours to the mast here?