We need a right back urgently. We don't need a centre half.
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Player Valuation: £80m
No. He's probably writing him off because he hates him and would prefer him to be nowhere near our club.
A lot of fans feel the same way. It's upto Rafael to change that opinion and the only way he's going to do that is on the pitch. A win over Liverpool would certainly help in that regard.
Theoneandonly
Player Valuation: £10m
Keane is definitely not leaving. Holgate is seen as a backup.
Theoneandonly
Player Valuation: £10m
We do if one is leaving.
Kyle Walker comparison is spot on. I really enjoyed watching Walker roast every attacker at the Euros, especially when the only one who beat him for pace all tournament was Insigne and he just nudged him away when they got to the ball at the same time. Only other defender I’ve seen do that recently is Godfrey.
A decision needs to be made on Mina, I get that. But I would look to move on Holgate after his woeful form last season. We also probably need to let Branthwaite to go on loan again.
Right back is the most pressing position in the whole squad. We need someone in and ready for week 1.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes good post.
I have written a reasonable amount about this from the early outset of the crisis (when Corona Virus first broke out in March) that you would see some quite acute deflationary pressures and than this was unlikely to have peaked last summer. Indeed the inability of football to take quite radical action (i.e to find a collective solution to reduce wage bills) or alternatively formally announce an end to FFP (rather than at present a postponement) have been incredibly short sighted and added to the problem.
The shock of this years accounts will lead to problems, while next years will be even worse. I expect next summer to see a bigger dip. If that's the case you then start to wonder what 3 consecutive years of decline has to the longer term outlook. Either way though it will be an industry that is used to almost unparalleled YOY growth experience a sharp, and potentially prolonged decline and not knowing how to react. Some clubs have depended on transfer revenue to subsidise the whole business who are in deep trouble. At a bigger level in truth entire leagues have depended on it and the biggest buyer the PL is just not playing ball currently (as well as the elite teams). So you've got this horrendous situation currently there's little business done. Even if you have money to spend nd are one of the few, you would be wise just to sit on it and make teams sweat as the auction trends downwards.
Take Sancho for example, last summer Dortmund pitched him at initially 150 and then wanted 120. United were willing to go to 90m ish and pulled away. Pre Covid the general perception would have been-especially for a young player that his value would have risen, even if it was from the United valuation. He has lost around 20% on United's valuation of last summer, and that's an offer Dortmund were not willing to entertain last summer. You are looking at a 35% reduction on their price last summer, and probably 50% on what they wanted to sell him for pre Covid. And this is for very much blue chip, premium footballer, who is of an age and quality that is likely to outlive the decline and be able to sold on at the other side. If his price is down 20+% what do we think about the rest of the market?
Football culturally has moved to an approach in recent years where sellers have a price, and in truth there has increasingly been negative pressure as the window goes on. It's almost like the big buyers make their move first and slowly price start to fall as the realisation sets in for teams. What I've said a few times, is that football's eco-structure did not want this deflation. To them the game "worked" before. Agents, advisors, players, scouts, regulators all knew where they were. Inflation was consistent and relatively under control and for those in the game they couldn't see a world where prices tumbled.
As for our part in it, it's pretty hard. We were performing badly before the crisis. Our few saleable assets will have lost value (as we are seeing with Kean). I think Brands is a good negotiator on the buying side and will take things to the wire with players. I honestly wouldn't rule out Lenglet arriving on loan (or something equally mad like that). Sides are struggling though. Some reds I speak to are increasingly angry they can't buy anyone until they sell, and that essentially despite touting their players out, at present there have been no buyers. Even with acceptable payment packages, nobody wants Williams, Phillips, Shaqiri, Wilson, Origi etc for even £10m (and that's inclusive of bonuses). Maybe that changes as the window goes on, but I suspect there is more pressure on fees as time goes by.
It's an interesting window anyway. I still think we may see 1 big out here (probably 1 of the front 3) with Benitez building an attack around the 2 that are left. That will probably help some smart recruitment in other areas.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I think the problem is mate, to be blunt, nobody would want to buy Holgate, or if they did it may only be for 2-3 million.
Me, I'd keep him and convert him into a midfield player but have him around the squad as a utility man, if this was the only offer we had on the table.
Re Sancho, his value was always likely to drop with a year less remaining on his contract.
On transfers I think we are going to see two different types of market. The market for elite players will continue to grow and fees will continue to rise. The market for lesser players, or punts etc is going to dramatically reduce in value. Teams won't be willing to pay 30m on a perceived gamble because of the current economic position. What I really hope to see happen is a reduction in the astronomical wages given to lesser players in the top flight. It's not sustainable in the current form, and we are one of the worst examples of it.
Theoneandonly
Player Valuation: £10m
If you're getting rid of Holgate and Branthwaite is going on loan, then who do you have for cover?
Theoneandonly
Player Valuation: £10m
Chelsea want 25 mil for him.
That's the scenario where we need a signing. But we can let one go without needing cover.
If money is an issue, then we shouldn't even be considering central defenders. Right back, right side of midfield, and central midfield are the 3 crucial positions. RB is the most pressing by a mile.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
The Echo, [Publication is blacklisted due to spam] are all reporting on the story in 90min, that everton are interested in Tammy Abraham at Chelsea. Apparently he wants a move, there are a number of clubs interested, but I think the fee has not been mentioned. I think he is a good player, certainly better than Tosun. But I think if we keep Kean and DCL we probably dont need Abraham, because we would then have 3 players fighting for 1 position, unless Rafael is going 532 and Rafael is going to start with Richarlison and DCL upfront, with Kean and Abraham as the alternatives.
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catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I'll be honest, the situation whereby Chelsea get that, I just don't see (for reasons I mentioned above). If Mina is moved on, and perhaps we get our number 1 target, and if Benitez wants to play a back 3, I could see a world where a loan may be done. After the last debacle with Chelsea and Zouma though, I don't see the club going in to play ball with them.
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