Football money league (Deloitte)


14_dollars said:
Everton 27th with revenue of €218m (broadcast, matchday and commercial for 23/24 season).

For example this compares to Man City (€838m) and West Ham (€322m).

Clearly a huge opportunity to close the gap with BMD and associated sponsorships in place.

https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/serv.../analysis/deloitte-football-money-league.html
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Think the stadium pays for itself in the grand scheme.

Presents so many opportunities. Conferences, Concerts, International Football, increased corporate facilities.

Whilst it might not reach that of West Ham (i don't see how we'd get away with charging £85 a home game), it'll certainly propel us into the Top 20 again.
 
barneygumble said:
Think the stadium pays for itself in the grand scheme.

Presents so many opportunities. Conferences, Concerts, International Football, increased corporate facilities.

Whilst it might not reach that of West Ham (i don't see how we'd get away with charging £85 a home game), it'll certainly propel us into the Top 20 again.
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Our corporate offering is the big equaliser. We now have loads, it’s sold out as season tickets and it’s comparable in price to all of the others bar Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal
 
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For English Clubs outside of the Favoured 6, this Deloitte Money League always seems to be largely dictated by qualification for Europe and/or whether clubs are charging higher ticket prices - which obviously the London/Southern Clubs do. Which is why Palace and Fulham are around our position.

West Ham fans online always seem to think their place in this highlights how big a club they are. But I disagree - it is circumstantial for them.

Whilst at Goodison, us reaching a higher place on this list has always been linked to European qualfiication. So it will be interesting to see if the new Stadium, and commercial opportunities that will bring (as well as improvements the Friedkin Group can make on that front) can get us in the top 20 or close to it, even without European Football in the coming seasons.
 
barneygumble said:
Think the stadium pays for itself in the grand scheme.

Presents so many opportunities. Conferences, Concerts, International Football, increased corporate facilities.

Whilst it might not reach that of West Ham (i don't see how we'd get away with charging £85 a home game), it'll certainly propel us into the Top 20 again.
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You don't think it will even reach west ham? That's surprising considering just 10-15 years ago we were always comfortably in the top 20, even top 15 i think. So what your suggesting is that the new stadium will put us back to where we were 10 years ago?
 

barneygumble said:
Think the stadium pays for itself in the grand scheme.

Presents so many opportunities. Conferences, Concerts, International Football, increased corporate facilities.

Whilst it might not reach that of West Ham (i don't see how we'd get away with charging £85 a home game), it'll certainly propel us into the Top 20 again.
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I don't think West Ham get anything from other events though do they? The athletics, concerts and baseball for example ? Could be wrong but with that in mind our potential additional revenue from commercial is going to be significant. Plus, whatever, the London stadium is an awful football ground !!
 
Only tells half the story. Lyon for example sneak into the top 20 but are also half a billion quid in debt which has provisionally relegated them. What is most telling is that we are the 'biggest' English club that have dropped down that list since the beginning of the Premier League, due to complete mismanagement and fiscal recklessness.
 
Mr Happy said:
I don't think West Ham get anything from other events though do they? The athletics, concerts and baseball for example ? Could be wrong but with that in mind our potential additional revenue from commercial is going to be significant. Plus, whatever, the London stadium is an awful football ground !!
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West Ham basically get what they generate for football. They have to pay nothing for the stadium as the subsidy they get for the stewarding cancels out the tiny rent they pay for the stadium. It's the main reason why they will be able to outspend us for the next 30 years until we've paid off our ground.
 
johnjoeefc said:
You don't think it will even reach west ham? That's surprising considering just 10-15 years ago we were always comfortably in the top 20, even top 15 i think. So what your suggesting is that the new stadium will put us back to where we were 10 years ago?
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That's exactly what I'm suggesting.

We've gone backwards, we're dwarfed by West Ham, Newcastle in what we can generate on matchdays.

West Ham have the added luxury of commanding greater prices due to their geographical location, their stadium in addition holds 10,000 more than our new home.

Well be very similar, but we won't be pushing top 10 until we become a regular European contender who commands commercial deals they do.
 
Mr Happy said:
I don't think West Ham get anything from other events though do they? The athletics, concerts and baseball for example ? Could be wrong but with that in mind our potential additional revenue from commercial is going to be significant. Plus, whatever, the London stadium is an awful football ground !!
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I actually believe i read in the times that West Ham do generate an income from non-West Ham events at the stadium.

Oh and there's no contesting it. It's the worst stadium in the country by a fair distance!
 

hallamblue said:
West Ham basically get what they generate for football. They have to pay nothing for the stadium as the subsidy they get for the stewarding cancels out the tiny rent they pay for the stadium. It's the main reason why they will be able to outspend us for the next 30 years until we've paid off our ground.
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The original plan for the London stadium was for the whole upper tier and roof to be removed to reduce the capacity as it was to be used as an athletics venue after the big event and would not nee the extra capacity. This was the plan when it began construction which was why Spuds wanted to level it and build a totally new ground. West Ham got what seemed a really great deal because they got the ground for a really small rent, but I read somewhere that the whole upper tier will need major work on it in the not so distant future because it was not meant to be there long term. Might affect them financially in the coming years.
 
Timbucktoo said:
The original plan for the London stadium was for the whole upper tier and roof to be removed to reduce the capacity as it was to be used as an athletics venue after the big event and would not nee the extra capacity. This was the plan when it began construction which was why Spuds wanted to level it and build a totally new ground. West Ham got what seemed a really great deal because they got the ground for a really small rent, but I read somewhere that the whole upper tier will need major work on it in the not so distant future because it was not meant to be there long term. Might affect them financially in the coming years.
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Plus west ham stadium is not good for football...in some places you are miles away from the actual pitch. Wouldn't surprise me if in the next 10 years they move again to a new stadium.
 
johnjoeefc said:
You don't think it will even reach west ham? That's surprising considering just 10-15 years ago we were always comfortably in the top 20, even top 15 i think. So what your suggesting is that the new stadium will put us back to where we were 10 years ago?
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We should've moved or completely redeveloped a generation ago, really - so we're playing a lot of catch-up.

The rest of the footballing world hasn't sat still while we have, so yes we've inched further and further behind.
 
Bebeto said:
Plus west ham stadium is not good for football...in some places you are miles away from the actual pitch. Wouldn't surprise me if in the next 10 years they move again to a new stadium.
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Good luck to them finding a suitable area to do so that won`t take them outside of their area.
 

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