Crying out for a midfielder who's good on the ball. Nobody with the composure to pick it up and dictate play a little, something we've badly lacked the previous couple of seasons.
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perth_blue
Player Valuation: £15m
Not happy with Iwobi?
Sorry Dave, but I've seen you roll out agendas that were seasons in the making, the writers of Succession would be proud of the work done
This new I Support Frank to Sack The Manager storyline is entirely predictable and is more like a particularly bad episode of EastEnders
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's just a way of shutting down criticism of a manager.
Go through this thread and see how many times I compliment Lampard.
You need to be more objective. If a manager has lost us the points then that should be pointed out.
I don't have a problem with criticism. I support him but haven't a clue if he is any good
I originally replied to your quite limited version of "support"
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
Lampard should take much of the blame for this shambles of a display. He made no changes until after one hour when it was long obvious that Gordon, Guaye and Onana were hopeless. His frozen indecision cost us. Could have subbed at least two of them during the first half.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
He doesn't do that job though, he runs about pressing defenders and if need be can run with the ball at players. We need someone who can sit and spray the ball about the pitch, someone who can actually start attacks from the middle of the pitch. That's not Iwobi.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
It was the polar opposite of the sort of performance I expected. That we would have pushed up and been in their faces all game. Taking opportunities to expose their frailty when presented.
To get a win in this type of fixture, it has to be 90% based on organisation and effort. To see them waltzing through us and around us was dispiriting.
It was very disappointing but it is what it is in the context of where we are.
To get a win in this type of fixture, it has to be 90% based on organisation and effort. To see them waltzing through us and around us was dispiriting.
It was very disappointing but it is what it is in the context of where we are.
Oh, we all going mental off our first defeat in 7 then. Right on.
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
Not mental but the display for most of the game completely silenced the crowd. Hundreds were leaving 20 minutes from the end.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
This is it. If we are improving like we think we are, then we will go there and compete. If we perform, we have a chance of points in both games. Even last night we were in the game until the end. It's possible we get nothing from those games, of course, and that will be a cause for concern, but most of us are prepared to be patient if the overall trend is positive. I don't go in for the "Super" Frank nonsense - he has loads to learn - and it's possible, even likely, that he will eventually be found out (almost every Everton manager is found out in the end), but he'll get plenty of time from me, regardless of my doubts.
You can't judge a guy on two or three games, which is why if he has us out of the relegation zone by the World Cup break, then that'll do me for now. I'd like us to be comfortable, but it's a big enough job to get us mid-table this season. We have competed in every game so far this season. Providing we can avoid our form falling off a cliff, the signs are reasonably positive that we'll be respectable. I'm disappointed with the United performance and result, but it is what it is. A few wins didn't call for hanging out the bunting either, mind, so our slow climb to respectability continues.
100% mate, excellent post.
Whole thing is a process rather then an event, but we have to be competitive and that has to be baseline, we cant get ahead of ourselves going 7 unbeaten, nor if we loose 3 on the trot go nuclear, i think most rational people can see incremental progress that will have a ceiling, but at the same time frailties still exist in the vacuum of change. Both highs and lows need to be embraced and taken on their own merits as that will be the trajectory and we need to stick with it.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
Yup. The fanbase can help the manager here. We need to dial back the silly hype when we win a game or two (shouts for top seven, etc.) and stop going nuclear is we lose a couple on the trot. The bigger picture is what matters. The odd isolated win or loss proves nothing. The overall trend is key. Are we competing? Are we gaining enough points over a representative sample of matches? Right now, the answers to these questions are yes and possibly not. We'll have a better idea by the World Cup.
There is one thing, though, Frank must avoid: a series of hidings where we simply do not compete. Right now, we might not be taking enough points, but we will if we continue to compete. Most of us can see that. If we stop competing, he'll have a problem. So whatever about the Spurs game, we really cannot ship a bad defeat to the likes of Newcastle and follow up with other similar outcomes. But I don't think we will. We need to get to the World Cup looking competitive.
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