Holgate Racially Abused By Firmino - The Guardian

[davek]

I dont know why there's a constant equation of lack of conclusive evidence with 'being mistaken'.

Two very different things.

 

[Kaiser Soysauce]

Doesn't it also mean not innocent?

In your fair and unbiased view obviously.

Innocent until proven guilty? Sometimes referred to by the Latin expression ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Not point scoring would be recognising that both lads were more than likely racially abused. I’ve not met any Evertonian who doesn’t think Brewster more than likely was, yet because it was their own player there was a whole legion of Liverpool fans who sought to tear Holgate’s character to pieces and sadly there were some so called Everton fans who were more than happy to gloat when it came back with insufficient evidence.

Calling out hypocrisy, double standards and poor behaviour is not point scoring.

 

[The Speke Spectre]

Two young black lads upset at receiving what they perceived as racial abuse. Both dismissed by the powers that be.

The "kick it out" campaign is nothing but lip service.

 

[Groucho]

Two young black lads upset at receiving what they perceived as racial abuse. Both dismissed by the powers that be.

The "kick it out" campaign is nothing but lip service.

That’s a concern

 

[Khalekan]

Two young black lads upset at receiving what they perceived as racial abuse. Both dismissed by the powers that be.

The "kick it out" campaign is nothing but lip service.

That is the key word.

Just because a person “perceives” something does not make it so.

And in the absence of corroborative evidence there is nowt the powers that be can do.

 

[Loadsofchemistry]

Liverpool football club. Fighting racism since this morning.

 

[The Speke Spectre]

That is the key word.

Just because a person “perceives” something does not make it so.

And in the absence of corroborative evidence there is nowt the powers that be can do.

Agreed. It must be frustrating for POC though. I'd honestly like for Holgate to give an interview about it, break his silence, if you will. I suspect he was told by the club to not do it for whatever reason. The Brewster kid did a big interview in the Guardian about what was said and if it was repeated verbatim then there's little room for mishearing or any other incorrect interpretation. However as you say, with a lack of evidence what can they do?

 

[PITA]

UEFA has dropped charges against Spartak Moscow over allegations of racist abuse towards Liverpool's Rhian Brewster due to lack of evidence.



Interesting. So I am now sure LFC fans will bombard Brewster for bringing Spartak into a racism controversy.

Does this mean that Brewster is a liar?

 

[jaycee]

Does this mean that Brewster is a liar?

I dont think either lied,misheard or mis understood,just a lack of solid evidence to back up the claims

 

[Azzurri]

Funny lot aren’t they.

 

[Azzurri]

I dont think either lied,misheard or mis understood,just a lack of solid evidence to back up the claims

Of course.

But, according to Kopites, Holgate is a liar who should be banned and Brewster has been victimised. Obviously.

 

[PITA]

I dont think either lied,misheard or mis understood,just a lack of solid evidence to back up the claims

I would agree. I'm just pretending to be a RS.

 

[jaycee]

Of course.

But, according to Kopites, Holgate is a liar who should be banned and Brewster has been victimised. Obviously.

They are bellends though

 

[everton1953]

Oh ace, this important and popular topic is back. Let's see if we can get it past the 1000 mark. I think both players should fight a duel on Stanley Park before a baying crowd of partisan fans. Holgate gets the first shot.