davek
Player Valuation: £150m
William Ralph Dean.
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Is Football Racist ?
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William Ralph Dean.
bluebottle
Player Valuation: £35m
Does it honestly make any difference what race he was? He was just a great footballer fortunately for our club. Makes no odds his race or creed.
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
This idea of a QOTA to raise the number of blacks/asians etc is completely ridiculous. If you are good enough, you get the job. It doesn't matter what colour you are. If I was applying for a job but I missed out because a lesser qualified black person was hired to "get numbers up" I would be furious.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Who would feel they had earned a job if they got it due to a quota system? Total bo**ocks IMO.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
No. I'm just making the point he was black and we should be proud the club have him as an icon.
EFCNIK
Banned
We are. Very. But his skin colour is irrelevent.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It wasn't back then though. He got an awful lot of stick. He's our best ever player and an icon in British football. Just saying, it's something we should celebrate.
Azzurri
Player Valuation: £70m
What, we should celebrate the fact he was mixed race? Why? Do we celebrate the fact Neville Southall had brown hair?
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
when did all this "race" issue start then. it seems a bit like that old chestnut "why did all the jews go meekly to their deaths" next minute - the film Defiance is made and the oxygen of publicity gets to some little known history. black slavers used to sail up the western coast of europe and up to scotland to kidnap whole villages to sell on. true history is a great thing - the rubbish that gets passed off as truth/history in these dark days is only fantasy stories to feed an agenda.
Azzurri
Player Valuation: £70m
Oh and this is complete bollocks.
Name one incident of someone saying they aren't proud of Dixie Dean. One.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
To be fair, I dont think Dave was inferring anything of the sort, but hell, he can defend himself!
Azzurri
Player Valuation: £70m
What so we're meant to say 'Dixie Dean, 60 goals in one season, Cup winner, League winner, club's all time leading scorer... Oh and he was mixed race!' ?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I think the term used back them was 'mulato' rather than mixed race. We should celebrate the fact our club was open-minded. In the 1920s many other's wouldn't have been that progressive. I know it sounds ridiculous now, but it would have been a big deal.
...although Dean himself sought to avoid questions on his background.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Not my row mate, but of course not.
The point was, I think, is that his race is/was utterly irrelevant. But in the context of this discussion about race, the fact that it is NOT an issue, and in my memory, never has been, is something perhaps not to be "proud" of, but kind of kills any subtle innuendos that have been pointed at us over the years.
I think that was what he was getting at.
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