Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
Yes, mate. That is exactly what I'm saying, all that has gone before summer 2013 does not exist.
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Yes, mate. That is exactly what I'm saying, all that has gone before summer 2013 does not exist.
Dithering Dougie
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Right, well of course that's wrong but you didn't need me to type this to explain that.
Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
Did you need me to tell you I was being sarcastic? I hope not.
Why does it matter if I was only talking about the last 2 seasons?
Dithering Dougie
Banned
Well because football transfers have been common place for years I suppose and quiet a few posters don't realise or at least accept that for one reason or another.
But best let the thread get back to fuming about John Stones not being sold to Chelsea ha..
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
There you go lads...more rubbish for you all to "discuss"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-john-stones-chelsea-6161434
Manchester City ready to join John Stones chase as Chelsea prepare THIRD bid for Everton defender
Chelsea will return with a fresh bid for John Stones after Everton rejected their second offer of £26million.
But Manchester City are ready to join the chase to land the England defender if Chelsea look like they are close to signing him.
The champions, who had a £20m move turned down two weeks ago, returned with a fresh offer on Tuesday. Everton dismissed it and continue to publicly insist that 21-year-old Stones is not for sale.
As revealed by Mirror Sport earlier this month, the Toffees are holding out for around £34m - a British record fee for a defender.
The Etihad club have held a long standing interest in Stones, but would like to see him play a full season as a first choice for Everton in the Premier League before launching an all out bid to sign him.
City’s top brass though, have become increasingly nervous about the interest from Stamford Bridge in the Everton centre half, and now they are on stand-by to enter the fray if it seems the player will be sold this summer.
If it seems possible that the Merseyside club – who have stated bluntly they have no financial pressure to sell and no intention of doing so – will change their stance and listen to offers, then City will match anything Chelsea offer, and hope to persuade Stones to make the short journey down the East Lancs road to join them.
City are desperate to add young English players to their roster, but their scouts feel even though Stones is clearly a top player in the making, he would benefit from more time at Goodison learning the difficult arts of the centre half.
It seems possible the fee should Everton ever agree to sell would go beyond £30m, and that figure won’t be substantially different next summer, even should Stones become an England regular.
So there is no risk in that respect in City waiting for another season to make an approach for a player who could be a long term replacement for Vincent Kompany, but the gamble comes with Chelsea’s interest.
And we understand City have been asked to be kept informed of any developments relating to Stones’ situation by the Everton board, allowing them to rival any Chelsea bid should it be seriously considered.
Across the park at Anfield meanwhile, Liverpool maintain an interest in French international defender Lucas Digne, but will only make a move for the defender if he is valued below £7m.
Digne has been in talks with his club Paris St Germain over his future, and if he doesn’t get guarantees over game time, then he will ask to leave.
Liverpool rate the left back – who can also play in midfield – but they will not be lured into a bid if the asking price is too high.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-john-stones-chelsea-6161434
Manchester City ready to join John Stones chase as Chelsea prepare THIRD bid for Everton defender
Chelsea will return with a fresh bid for John Stones after Everton rejected their second offer of £26million.
But Manchester City are ready to join the chase to land the England defender if Chelsea look like they are close to signing him.
The champions, who had a £20m move turned down two weeks ago, returned with a fresh offer on Tuesday. Everton dismissed it and continue to publicly insist that 21-year-old Stones is not for sale.
As revealed by Mirror Sport earlier this month, the Toffees are holding out for around £34m - a British record fee for a defender.
The Etihad club have held a long standing interest in Stones, but would like to see him play a full season as a first choice for Everton in the Premier League before launching an all out bid to sign him.
City’s top brass though, have become increasingly nervous about the interest from Stamford Bridge in the Everton centre half, and now they are on stand-by to enter the fray if it seems the player will be sold this summer.
If it seems possible that the Merseyside club – who have stated bluntly they have no financial pressure to sell and no intention of doing so – will change their stance and listen to offers, then City will match anything Chelsea offer, and hope to persuade Stones to make the short journey down the East Lancs road to join them.
City are desperate to add young English players to their roster, but their scouts feel even though Stones is clearly a top player in the making, he would benefit from more time at Goodison learning the difficult arts of the centre half.
It seems possible the fee should Everton ever agree to sell would go beyond £30m, and that figure won’t be substantially different next summer, even should Stones become an England regular.
So there is no risk in that respect in City waiting for another season to make an approach for a player who could be a long term replacement for Vincent Kompany, but the gamble comes with Chelsea’s interest.
And we understand City have been asked to be kept informed of any developments relating to Stones’ situation by the Everton board, allowing them to rival any Chelsea bid should it be seriously considered.
Across the park at Anfield meanwhile, Liverpool maintain an interest in French international defender Lucas Digne, but will only make a move for the defender if he is valued below £7m.
Digne has been in talks with his club Paris St Germain over his future, and if he doesn’t get guarantees over game time, then he will ask to leave.
Liverpool rate the left back – who can also play in midfield – but they will not be lured into a bid if the asking price is too high.
carolinablue232
Player Valuation: £70m
Luiz, sure. That was massively inflated,but it was more inflated when he left England. The rest is just Liverpool being stupid.
I also wouldn't call Stones one of the best in the world. He's well on his way, but he had plenty of shaky moments last season.
Either way, I wouldn't sell for less than 40. We've got him tied up, and he'll be worth at least that much in 2 years time.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
As with all of these stories, it comes with a massive get out clause for the journo - '... if Everton change their stance...'.
That's written from the City perspective not Chelsea's.
Darren Lewis was on Twitter earlier, getting laughed at by EFC fans, so he's being all bullish now, claiming there will be a 3rd Chelsea bid.
And where they get this idea that £34m is the magic number we'd accept when we've said he's not for sale and have no intention of selling is once again baffling.
That's written from the City perspective not Chelsea's.
Darren Lewis was on Twitter earlier, getting laughed at by EFC fans, so he's being all bullish now, claiming there will be a 3rd Chelsea bid.
And where they get this idea that £34m is the magic number we'd accept when we've said he's not for sale and have no intention of selling is once again baffling.
Steve0
Player Valuation: £35m
Well there's also (choosing Spurs) Lamela, Rebrov, Paulinho, Soldado, Vertonghen... I can do the same with most clubs. English clubs have the most money so they buy a lot of English players...a lot are inflated but there's been a few English bargains as well. Stones for one!
Honestly think Stones is already one of the top 5 CBs in the premier league. Must admit I dont know much about the rest of the world but can't think there's going to be many that are better.
He's also only going to get better. £45m up front and we can have a conversation.
nigelbenn19
Player Valuation: £50k
if we sell stones for anything less than 40m, im gonna set up 20 tents outside the park end and fill aload of gypsies with a months supply of food and booze and tell them to cause complete havoc
nigelbenn19
Player Valuation: £50k
and refuse to move
nigelbenn19
Player Valuation: £50k
heads, shoulders knees john stones, knees john stones
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
May I direct you over to the Drunk Thread over in the Ale House?
May I direct you over to the Drunk Thread over in the Ale House?
I know this will probably blow up in my face (if we do sell him) but I'm sure we could come up with a few chants for Mourinho inspired by above:-
We've still got John Stones, got John Stones
We've still got John Stones, got John Stones
So, stick your money up your hole Mourinho
We've still got John Stones, got John Stones
Feel free to come up with your own chants.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
How about...
Get out of our club...BK BK
Get out of our club...BK BK
Take the muppets on the Board with you..BK BK
Nis Satis my butt...BK BK
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
As we both know Dave that was because of the club running up against its overdraft/credit limit year in year out due to a lack of income relative to expenditure and a lack of capital for headroom or player acquisition.
Now the Board at least has choices, (i) invest in additional playing staff, or (ii) reduce the accumulated shareholder deficit by paying down existing debt.
Both choices arise only out of the increase in broadcasting revenues not the acumen of the Board.
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