royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
But Cascarino reckons we are in a losing battle over Stones,so we should more or less accept it,as they will keep coming back. Haha
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TheFinnFan
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Hah, what a knob head.
Chelsea is afraid that theyll have to submit into fight over his signing.
I think that many on here are misreading the situation.
I genuinely believe that Everton do not want to sell John Stones.He is a good player that is getting better and is on a long term contract.
I genuinely believe that RM wants to build a team around his best young players and Stones is definitely one of those.
As long as Stones is happy to stay at Everton then Chelsea have no chance.
The only two factors that can alter the situation is for Stones to do a "Lescott" or for an extraordinary bid to be made that Everton simply could not refuse, I am talking 50m or thereabouts.
But, I think Everton want to keep their player and genuinely do not want to sell.
I genuinely believe that Everton do not want to sell John Stones.He is a good player that is getting better and is on a long term contract.
I genuinely believe that RM wants to build a team around his best young players and Stones is definitely one of those.
As long as Stones is happy to stay at Everton then Chelsea have no chance.
The only two factors that can alter the situation is for Stones to do a "Lescott" or for an extraordinary bid to be made that Everton simply could not refuse, I am talking 50m or thereabouts.
But, I think Everton want to keep their player and genuinely do not want to sell.
I'd agree.
And there is always a chance, no matter how small it may seem, that Stones may not end up fulfilling his potential. He could end up getting a career ruining injury or just going off the boil and being a good, but not great, player.
Cascarino is an idiot, nobody in their right mind would take any notice of him.
The Rooney and Stones scenarios are poles apart.
If Rooney still had four years left on his contract , Utd would have been involved in a very different situation ,even allowing for our poor financial position at the time.
Similarly , if John Stones was about to enter the last year of his contract and was not signing another, we would be in a very different place now, financially stable or not.
Hibbertinho
Player Valuation: £8m
And the lad in question is level-headed enough to know that if he wants to grow into a better player, he's better off sticking with us in the meantime... even if he wants to play for Chelski/Manure eventually.
royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
Or going to Man C or Chelski and only making the bench.
Smudge1985
Player Valuation: £950k
Keep saying this to my dad, who is adamant he's gone and is sat there like an idiot praying for United to come in so Chelsea dont get him.
I keep reminding him, both Baines and Jagielka were bid for by bigger clubs in the last 2-3 summers, and both didnt force a move through, despite the press harping on constantly that they would. Baines especially. Neither did, both are still here. As cynical as football is these days, not every player is Fabian Delph.
larrygobfiend
Player Valuation: £40m
Name a price... say £45 million (baring in mind, the sold Luiz for £50 million) and tell everyone that's the price you'll need to pay if you want him. If 3 teams are interested in him, I reckon there will be a scramble and one of them will bite.
He's going this season or next so might as well pit the teams against each other and get top dollar.
He's going this season or next so might as well pit the teams against each other and get top dollar.
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
Surprised people think the tipping point will be £35m, I think it'll be £40m albeit some of that probably in add ons. I'd want cold hard cash though, not, oh we'll pay you £1m more if John comes into training with green trainers on on a Tuesday etc. We're in the position of power and other clubs knowing that we have say, £35m at our disposal works against us really.
"Luiz went from £50m though"
larrygobfiend
Player Valuation: £40m
Mate, this is Everton.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
Everton prepare to play long game in battle for Man United and Chelsea target John Stones
EVERTON are preparing for a long fight to keep John Stones out of Chelsea’s hands.
By Mike Whalley / Published 30th July 2015
It is the sort of battle they have become used to.
And there is one thing that those in charge at Stamford Bridge will need to consider as they pursue the defender: The decision to reject an offer of £26m on Tuesday was not a ploy to trigger a higher bid. They genuinely want to hold on to him.
Chairman Bill Kenwright has no financial need to sell Stones, while manager Roberto Martinez thinks that the defender – who he sees as a future club captain – would be better placed to continue his development by staying at Goodison Park.
Recent history shows that when Everton are determined to keep a player, there are only two ways he will leave; if he demands to go, and if the club receive an offer that is too good to refuse. So far, neither criterion applies to the Stones saga.
The last player who did leave Goodison Park in such circumstances was Marouane Fellaini, who finally departed for Manchester United in the last hours of the 2013 summer transfer window after a drawn-out transfer battle.
As that deadline approached two years ago, Everton were under no obligation to sell; a £23.5m release clause in the Belgian midfielder’s contract had expired more than a month earlier.
The deal happened because Fellaini told Martinez that he wanted to go, and because United’s final offer of £27m opened the door for the manager to do some late business of his own, securing Gareth Barry and Romelu Lukaku on loan, while bringing in James McCarthy permanently.
Significantly, left-back Leighton Baines stayed that summer, despite United’s attempts to sign him too.
Since then, Everton have fought off interest in Ross Barkley and Seamus Coleman. All three of those players, like Stones, are now signed up on long-term contracts.
Kenwright is not a universally popular chairman among the club’s fans, who feel that he has failed to find the sort of investment they need to challenge for Champions League football on a regular basis.
But he has worked hard to help Everton shake off a reputation they had developed as a selling club.
There was a time when their best talent was picked off by teams with bigger budgets; Wayne Rooney going to Manchester United, Mikel Arteta to Arsenal, Joleon Lescott and Jack Rodwell to Manchester City.
The increase in income from the latest television contracts, allied to Kenwright’s determination to support his manager, has slowed the exit traffic.
It is why Everton are adamant about keeping Stones.
A young English defender, with four senior caps to his name already, is bound to be of value to clubs short of homegrown players for their Champions League and Premier League squads.
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho is an astute judge of talent, and can see Stones is a player with the potential to be John Terry’s long-term replacement.
Everton, though, are not going to be railroaded into a sale. In chasing Stones, Mourinho is taking on one heck of a battle.
For those interested, here's the link
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-battle-Man-United-Chelsea-target-John-Stones
EVERTON are preparing for a long fight to keep John Stones out of Chelsea’s hands.
By Mike Whalley / Published 30th July 2015
It is the sort of battle they have become used to.
And there is one thing that those in charge at Stamford Bridge will need to consider as they pursue the defender: The decision to reject an offer of £26m on Tuesday was not a ploy to trigger a higher bid. They genuinely want to hold on to him.
Chairman Bill Kenwright has no financial need to sell Stones, while manager Roberto Martinez thinks that the defender – who he sees as a future club captain – would be better placed to continue his development by staying at Goodison Park.
Recent history shows that when Everton are determined to keep a player, there are only two ways he will leave; if he demands to go, and if the club receive an offer that is too good to refuse. So far, neither criterion applies to the Stones saga.
The last player who did leave Goodison Park in such circumstances was Marouane Fellaini, who finally departed for Manchester United in the last hours of the 2013 summer transfer window after a drawn-out transfer battle.
As that deadline approached two years ago, Everton were under no obligation to sell; a £23.5m release clause in the Belgian midfielder’s contract had expired more than a month earlier.
The deal happened because Fellaini told Martinez that he wanted to go, and because United’s final offer of £27m opened the door for the manager to do some late business of his own, securing Gareth Barry and Romelu Lukaku on loan, while bringing in James McCarthy permanently.
Significantly, left-back Leighton Baines stayed that summer, despite United’s attempts to sign him too.
Since then, Everton have fought off interest in Ross Barkley and Seamus Coleman. All three of those players, like Stones, are now signed up on long-term contracts.
Kenwright is not a universally popular chairman among the club’s fans, who feel that he has failed to find the sort of investment they need to challenge for Champions League football on a regular basis.
But he has worked hard to help Everton shake off a reputation they had developed as a selling club.
There was a time when their best talent was picked off by teams with bigger budgets; Wayne Rooney going to Manchester United, Mikel Arteta to Arsenal, Joleon Lescott and Jack Rodwell to Manchester City.
The increase in income from the latest television contracts, allied to Kenwright’s determination to support his manager, has slowed the exit traffic.
It is why Everton are adamant about keeping Stones.
A young English defender, with four senior caps to his name already, is bound to be of value to clubs short of homegrown players for their Champions League and Premier League squads.
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho is an astute judge of talent, and can see Stones is a player with the potential to be John Terry’s long-term replacement.
Everton, though, are not going to be railroaded into a sale. In chasing Stones, Mourinho is taking on one heck of a battle.
For those interested, here's the link
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-battle-Man-United-Chelsea-target-John-Stones
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