John Stones transfer saga

[Jacko93]

The above seems to me, to be one of the very few articles on the matter that has spoke with relative sanity on the subject

 

[Eggs]

Keep saying this to my dad, who is adamant he's gone and is sat there like an idiot praying for United to come in so Chelsea dont get him.

I keep reminding him, both Baines and Jagielka were bid for by bigger clubs in the last 2-3 summers, and both didnt force a move through, despite the press harping on constantly that they would. Baines especially. Neither did, both are still here. As cynical as football is these days, not every player is Fabian Delph.

....Delph could've moved on a lucrative Bosman not long ago but stayed an extra season at Villa.

 

[bluemangroup]

Mate, this is Everton.

Oh Christ. Wrong forum again.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Keep saying this to my dad, who is adamant he's gone and is sat there like an idiot praying for United to come in so Chelsea dont get him.

Had always assumed that City and Utd had shown an interest early on and were told he wasn't for sale this year and backed off. Chelski have just ignored anything we've said and have been bidding anyway trying to force it. I imagine if it got to the point where Chelsea got into the silly money ball park to sell now, Bill would be on the phone to Utd and City to invite them to enter a bid. I doubt Chelsea would get a free run at him no matter what they bid or when.

But we will try to keep him.

 

[BiggyRat]

The above seems to me, to be one of the very few articles on the matter that has spoke with relative sanity on the subject

So, so agree with this!

We should forget about a price & tell them they can pick any of our stands to redevelop. Then they can have him...

 

[Smudge1985]

....Delph could've moved on a lucrative Bosman not long ago but stayed an extra season at Villa.

But signed a new contract with a paltry £8 million release clause. He knew what he was doing.

Had always assumed that City and Utd had shown an interest early on and were told he wasn't for sale this year and backed off. Chelski have just ignored anything we've said and have been bidding anyway trying to force it. I imagine if it got to the point where Chelsea got into the silly money ball park to sell now, Bill would be on the phone to Utd and City to invite them to enter a bid. I doubt Chelsea would get a free run at him no matter what they bid or when.

But we will try to keep him.

I agree, I dont want Chelsea to get him either, especially not the way they've behaved. Im more concerned that for my dad the best case scenario is United signing him instead, rather than us actually keeping him!

 

[caught]

Everton prepare to play long game in battle for Man United and Chelsea target John Stones
EVERTON are preparing for a long fight to keep John Stones out of Chelsea’s hands.

By Mike Whalley / Published 30th July 2015

It is the sort of battle they have become used to.

And there is one thing that those in charge at Stamford Bridge will need to consider as they pursue the defender: The decision to reject an offer of £26m on Tuesday was not a ploy to trigger a higher bid. They genuinely want to hold on to him.

Chairman Bill Kenwright has no financial need to sell Stones, while manager Roberto Martinez thinks that the defender – who he sees as a future club captain – would be better placed to continue his development by staying at Goodison Park.

Recent history shows that when Everton are determined to keep a player, there are only two ways he will leave; if he demands to go, and if the club receive an offer that is too good to refuse. So far, neither criterion applies to the Stones saga.

The last player who did leave Goodison Park in such circumstances was Marouane Fellaini, who finally departed for Manchester United in the last hours of the 2013 summer transfer window after a drawn-out transfer battle.

As that deadline approached two years ago, Everton were under no obligation to sell; a £23.5m release clause in the Belgian midfielder’s contract had expired more than a month earlier.

The deal happened because Fellaini told Martinez that he wanted to go, and because United’s final offer of £27m opened the door for the manager to do some late business of his own, securing Gareth Barry and Romelu Lukaku on loan, while bringing in James McCarthy permanently.

Significantly, left-back Leighton Baines stayed that summer, despite United’s attempts to sign him too.

Since then, Everton have fought off interest in Ross Barkley and Seamus Coleman. All three of those players, like Stones, are now signed up on long-term contracts.

Kenwright is not a universally popular chairman among the club’s fans, who feel that he has failed to find the sort of investment they need to challenge for Champions League football on a regular basis.

But he has worked hard to help Everton shake off a reputation they had developed as a selling club.

There was a time when their best talent was picked off by teams with bigger budgets; Wayne Rooney going to Manchester United, Mikel Arteta to Arsenal, Joleon Lescott and Jack Rodwell to Manchester City.

The increase in income from the latest television contracts, allied to Kenwright’s determination to support his manager, has slowed the exit traffic.

It is why Everton are adamant about keeping Stones.

A young English defender, with four senior caps to his name already, is bound to be of value to clubs short of homegrown players for their Champions League and Premier League squads.

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho is an astute judge of talent, and can see Stones is a player with the potential to be John Terry’s long-term replacement.

Everton, though, are not going to be railroaded into a sale. In chasing Stones, Mourinho is taking on one heck of a battle.






For those interested, here's the link

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-battle-Man-United-Chelsea-target-John-Stones

It says something - I'm not sure what, exactly, but I know it's bad - when the Daily Star is producing more reasoned journalism than the Guardian and the Telegraph.

 

[Pabbers]

Had always assumed that City and Utd had shown an interest early on and were told he wasn't for sale this year and backed off. Chelski have just ignored anything we've said and have been bidding anyway trying to force it. I imagine if it got to the point where Chelsea got into the silly money ball park to sell now, Bill would be on the phone to Utd and City to invite them to enter a bid. I doubt Chelsea would get a free run at him no matter what they bid or when.

But we will try to keep him.

Exactly my thought process with it all.

 

[helpimonfire]

Has he gone yet?...No...Panic over.

 

[Eggs]

But signed a new contract with a paltry £8 million release clause. He knew what he was doing.



I agree, I dont want Chelsea to get him either, especially not the way they've behaved. Im more concerned that for my dad the best case scenario is United signing him instead, rather than us actually keeping him!

....not wanting to get caught up in a Delph discussion, but he could've gone a year earlier for free and pocket even more money for himself. Instead, he stayed for a season, kept Villa up and got them £8m. Although he mishandled the final move, I think he acted ok.

 

[RFUS]

I think the only reason any blues are worried is that we still fundamentally do not trust Kenwright and co.

There's only 3 outcomes: he stays, we sell for a crazy fee or Kenwright buckles. He shouldn't, there is no reason to, so giving him the benefit of the doubt we really have nothing to worry about. We either keep Stones or we get a huge amount of money to strengthen with.

I'd rather keep him, like. He makes me proud to be a blue.

 

[Smudge1985]

....not wanting to get caught up in a Delph discussion, but he could've gone a year earlier for free and pocket even more money for himself. Instead, he stayed for a season, kept Villa up and got them £8m. Although he mishandled the final move, I think he acted ok.

Nobody wanted him last year. Before this season, he was generally seen as an injury prone waste of potential. Why risk ending your contract and ending up at an even worse club than Villa, when you can get a raise, and be given an out when a bigger club does come along?

 

[Khalekan]

Everton prepare to play long game in battle for Man United and Chelsea target John Stones
EVERTON are preparing for a long fight to keep John Stones out of Chelsea’s hands.

By Mike Whalley / Published 30th July 2015

It is the sort of battle they have become used to.

And there is one thing that those in charge at Stamford Bridge will need to consider as they pursue the defender: The decision to reject an offer of £26m on Tuesday was not a ploy to trigger a higher bid. They genuinely want to hold on to him.

Chairman Bill Kenwright has no financial need to sell Stones, while manager Roberto Martinez thinks that the defender – who he sees as a future club captain – would be better placed to continue his development by staying at Goodison Park.

Recent history shows that when Everton are determined to keep a player, there are only two ways he will leave; if he demands to go, and if the club receive an offer that is too good to refuse. So far, neither criterion applies to the Stones saga.

The last player who did leave Goodison Park in such circumstances was Marouane Fellaini, who finally departed for Manchester United in the last hours of the 2013 summer transfer window after a drawn-out transfer battle.

As that deadline approached two years ago, Everton were under no obligation to sell; a £23.5m release clause in the Belgian midfielder’s contract had expired more than a month earlier.

The deal happened because Fellaini told Martinez that he wanted to go, and because United’s final offer of £27m opened the door for the manager to do some late business of his own, securing Gareth Barry and Romelu Lukaku on loan, while bringing in James McCarthy permanently.

Significantly, left-back Leighton Baines stayed that summer, despite United’s attempts to sign him too.

Since then, Everton have fought off interest in Ross Barkley and Seamus Coleman. All three of those players, like Stones, are now signed up on long-term contracts.

Kenwright is not a universally popular chairman among the club’s fans, who feel that he has failed to find the sort of investment they need to challenge for Champions League football on a regular basis.

But he has worked hard to help Everton shake off a reputation they had developed as a selling club.

There was a time when their best talent was picked off by teams with bigger budgets; Wayne Rooney going to Manchester United, Mikel Arteta to Arsenal, Joleon Lescott and Jack Rodwell to Manchester City.

The increase in income from the latest television contracts, allied to Kenwright’s determination to support his manager, has slowed the exit traffic.

It is why Everton are adamant about keeping Stones.

A young English defender, with four senior caps to his name already, is bound to be of value to clubs short of homegrown players for their Champions League and Premier League squads.

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho is an astute judge of talent, and can see Stones is a player with the potential to be John Terry’s long-term replacement.

Everton, though, are not going to be railroaded into a sale. In chasing Stones, Mourinho is taking on one heck of a battle.






For those interested, here's the link

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...-battle-Man-United-Chelsea-target-John-Stones

Strange that it takes the Daily Star to come up with the most sensible critique yet of this saga.

The "quality" press and the Daily Mail have been shown up as the Sky mouthpieces they are by Her Majesty's Gutter Press.

 

[d34noj]

Nobody wanted him last year. Before this season, he was generally seen as an injury prone waste of potential. Why risk ending your contract and ending up at an even worse club than Villa, when you can get a raise, and be given an out when a bigger club does come along?

I'd imagine he has reassurances from either the board or the prospective owners regarding the clubs future (Benteke/signings) when the buy-out fell through/Benteke was sold then he changed his mind?

Or he's just a greedy ballbag.

 

[4737carlin]

I think the only reason any blues are worried is that we still fundamentally do not trust Kenwright and co.

They did this with Barkley last summer, and with Baines when United wanted him. Dunno why, since Rooney we have only sold players who either made it clear they wanted out like Fellaini and Lescott, players who we did well to move on like Rodwell or players we really didn't need and a move was the best for everyone.

The business side of the club such as the ground and merchandise deals we cant trust them on but when it comes to selling players we don't have to worry, Chelsea coming in with a silly offer we cant turn down like 45m would be another issue.