Jose Baxter

[Walken]

I'm pretty sure he had also been convicted of assaulting a man on crutches long before he signed for us

wasn't it dunc who was on crutches during the altercation?

 

[Prevenger17]

an altercation with a fisherman in a pub

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

so jose baxter runs liverpool and has forced everton to give him a contract, his drug dealing has really took off, fair play to him

Baxter on his way to see Unsworth this morning

 

[Roger Milla]

wasn't it dunc who was on crutches during the altercation?

Apparantly not

 

[Mountfield1985]

I think it's a bad move.

We're a football club first, one that hasn't won a trophy for 22 years.

As much as we like to cling on to small successes/PR exercises for the club, I'm of the belief that Everton need to concentrate on the football, and leave the community stuff to EITC and the clubs directors.

We're supporters of the club, so our natural instinct is to support but whatever way we spin it, Jose Baxter is taking a contract and another's place in the U23 squad. Every minute he gets, is a minute less for Tom Davies v2. It's also a very clear irrefutable statement that there's a tolerance at Everton to drug abuse.

It's jobs for the boys.

Baxter got a contract at Oldham because Stubbs had a word.
Baxter got a move to Sheff United because Weir.
Baxter got a move back to Everton because Kenwright/Unsworth.

All the above isn't conjecture.

Everyone deserves a second chance, especially with the disclaimer of youth but there's a line and a point when you need to wake up.

Let's get it right - he's a professional footballer here. He's had every opportunity in life.

My instinct is that the lad is a wrong'un. He's spat in the faces of too many. Suspended twice in nine months at 23/24 years of age.

All that said, I trust David Unsworth. I just hope there isn't external factors/pressures involved here due to Baxter's influence in Liverpool.

You make some good points, but some daft ones too.

Firstly, our trophy drought is completely irrelevant. Secondly, what do you mean by "Baxter's influence in Liverpool"? He's hardly Pablo Escobar is he?! He's not some drug baron with gangster cronies holding Everton at gun point. He's a young irresponsible lad who has been an idiot on a few nights out. He's not the first, he won't be the last. Hardly uncommon.

Yes he's had chances and he is extremely fortunate to be getting given this lifeline from the club.

But any assumptions about his character are exactly that. Assumptions. Not one of us know what issues he has or what reasons there may be for him to make such stupid decisions. I'd trust the club and Unsworth over anyone on that.

Your worry about his influence on the U23 players is valid. But I'd argue that it could be the reverse. He is a living, breathing cautionary tail for these lads. Our youngest ever first team player who’s hit rock bottom. Having a more senior player like Baxter in the mix who has to tow the line completely or face getting booted out, I don't think that's going to make these kids any less disciplined.

The only real downside I can see is he may take game time from other prospects. But again, this is something I'd trust Unsworth to manage in the right way.

 

[BLUEBERT]

He might take Tom Davies under his wings show him the ropes and that !

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Firstly, our trophy drought is completely irrelevant.

The point was, everything the club should be doing is to compete.

Investing time/minutes to a charity case at the expense of another player doesn't seem productive...

As I said, every minute Baxter gets is a minute from Tom Davies v2 - he should only get that game time if he's considered potentially good enough for the first team.

Secondly, what do you mean by "Baxter's influence in Liverpool"? He's hardly Pablo Escobar is he?! He's not some drug baron with gangster cronies holding Everton at gun point. He's a young irresponsible lad who has been an idiot on a few nights out. He's not the first, he won't be the last. Hardly uncommon.

Of course not, but I grew up in the place he first got arrested with two men, aged 29 and 34. It was no surprise back then even though he was only 17, and the names involved...

Through his own admission - he shouldn't live in Liverpool. Why is that?

There's no smoke without fire, and there was a lot of smoke around this lad before he even kicked a ball. Given how his career panned out...

Yes he's had chances and he is extremely fortunate to be getting given this lifeline from the club.

Like he was at Oldham, couldn't thank Stubbs enough.
Like he was at Sheff United, repaid them with two failed drugs tests.

In expre

But any assumptions about his character are exactly that. Assumptions. Not one of us know what issues he has or what reasons there may be for him to make such stupid decisions. I'd trust the club and Unsworth over anyone on that.

There's enough indicators for me. Top is how he continually lies, first arrest - I didn't know those two older gentlemen. failed drugs test - I was spiked. second failed drugs test months later...

Still, we'll see. Hopefully next time he moves on he has nicer things to say about "the blue sh***e"

 

[Philw]

I'm a disgrace for saying people who have had chances and let themselves down, who have attacked the club and coaches when they left and is not happy with this deal. I'm a disgrace, I have standards sir.

I think it's more the bringing up of Hall that he's referring to tbf...

If you criticised Rom for what he has said in the press and social media, you can't praise this deal as well. Baxter has said a lot worse about Everton than Rom on Twitter.

Whilst at the club??

I think it's a bad move.

We're a football club first, one that hasn't won a trophy for 22 years.

As much as we like to cling on to small successes/PR exercises for the club, I'm of the belief that Everton need to concentrate on the football, and leave the community stuff to EITC and the clubs directors.

We're supporters of the club, so our natural instinct is to support but whatever way we spin it, Jose Baxter is taking a contract and another's place in the U23 squad. Every minute he gets, is a minute less for Tom Davies v2. It's also a very clear irrefutable statement that there's a tolerance at Everton to drug abuse.

1) Pretty sure the E in EITC stands for Everton.
2) It really isn't.

It's jobs for the boys.

Baxter got a contract at Oldham because Stubbs had a word.
Baxter got a move to Sheff United because Weir.
Baxter got a move back to Everton because Kenwright/Unsworth.

All the above isn't conjecture.

That's conjecture.

Lets bring in Marcus Bent, Mark Ward and others?

Oh yeah, I forgot about him coming up through our academy system, then going off the rails whilst still a young player, and dropping out of the game. Oh, wait...

I'd much prefer the club to concentrate on winning.

I hear Man City want some more bandwagon fans... Also pretty sure this isn't the only thing preventing us from being champions.

Your worry about his influence on the U23 players is valid. But I'd argue that it could be the reverse. He is a living, breathing cautionary tail for these lads. Our youngest ever first team player who’s hit rock bottom. Having a more senior player like Baxter in the mix who has to tow the line completely or face getting booted out, I don't think that's going to make these kids any less disciplined.

The only real downside I can see is he may take game time from other prospects. But again, this is something I'd trust Unsworth to manage in the right way.

This. He was in the first team at 16. He's now 24/25 and in the u23s. Don't think the young lads will miss that.

 

[Zaschrona]

I really don't have a big problem with it. If Rhino wants him back, then ok, an older guy or two can't hurt our U23. If we are smart we can likely produce a reality show out of it. Jose Baxter: The last chance. Soon in your cinema.

 

[LEONARD]

I love the work we do in the community, and it fills my heart with pride, as I pass the Community college after the match, as I head towards ' Frost's on County Rd.

This though, smacks of social work, and not the legimate additional activity of a foot
ball club.

All available evidence is that Jose has chosen himself to squander his talent, and he has engaged in numerous dubious-criminal activities.

This is a 'bridge too far', and 30 corps, will again fail to relieve that bridge at Arnhem.

 

[BLUEBERT]

Get Billy Kenny back !!

 

[Brennan]

The point was, everything the club should be doing is to compete

Were you opposed to the £200,000 we gave to Bradley's family then ?

 

[Boss_Blue]

Personally I'm not arsed.

I think it's more the bringing up of Hall that he's referring to tbf...



Whilst at the club??



1) Pretty sure the E in EITC stands for Everton.
2) It really isn't.



That's conjecture.



Oh yeah, I forgot about him coming up through our academy system, then going off the rails whilst still a young player, and dropping out of the game. Oh, wait...



I hear Man City want some more bandwagon fans... Also pretty sure this isn't the only thing preventing us from being champions.



This. He was in the first team at 16. He's now 24/25 and in the u23s. Don't think the young lads will miss that.

Were you opposed to the £200,000 we gave to Bradley's family then ?

@Philw and @Brennan have come out swinging there.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

It's jobs for the boys.

Baxter got a contract at Oldham because Stubbs had a word.
Baxter got a move to Sheff United because Weir.
Baxter got a move back to Everton because Kenwright/Unsworth.

All the above isn't conjecture.

That's conjecture.

No Phil, it's not.

Baxter got a contract at Oldham because Stubbs had a word.
“Next thing I knew, Stubbsy was on the phone, saying, “What’s this about quitting and not having a club? I’m not having that. Leave it with me and I’ll get back to you”.
‘He had a word with (former Everton keeper) Paul Gerrard at Oldham and in no time Paul Dickov was offering me a contract. It was only for three or four months initially and I was on buttons, but I was made up. I was so grateful to Stubbsy for effectively saving my career. Without his intervention, I don’t know what I’d have done.

Baxter got a move to Sheff United because Weir.
On Baxter's capture, Blades boss David Weir expressed his delight at recruiting the former Everton trainee.
Weir said: "I have worked with Jose before and know what he can do, so I want to thank the Club for making this move happen."

Baxter got a move back to Everton because Kenwright/Unsworth.
See today's coverage...

It's also a very clear irrefutable statement that there's a tolerance at Everton to drug abuse.

2) It really isn't.

lol lol

We've give him a contract while he's still suspended for drugs lollol

 

[Boss_Blue]

And the boss counters beautifully.