But you know what? That want makes us us and them them. Despite the hurt, the pain and the sheer injustice... deep down, we're better than them and losing to them in a derby, no matter how many times won't change that fact. 1=20 UTFT!!Never posted before but my 22 Yr old, 'never seen us come close to winning anything' son has just stated he still would rather be a blue than a koppite. Its my fault and the guilt is starting to overwhelm.