Managers - and the transfer windows

[bluebastardo]

I'm a great believer that if clubs can only buy / sell players during the transfer windows , then that same rule should apply to their managers.

I think it's rediculous the way some managers can be sacked within a few games , and even before they have managed a game like the recent debacle at Southampton.

It's no fluke that managers who have had chance to create a squad, and fine tune it over time are responsible for 4 out of the top 5 teams in the league.

If a club could only deal with managers during the windows, especially the summer window, then it would cause less chaos , and the chances are that the said managers could prove to be better than first impressions suggest, and clubs such as Newcastle for example would likely have avoided relegation.

Managers should not be allowed to resign either outside of these periods, or be poached by other clubs, and should be punished by the FA should they do so.

Clubs should not be allowed to be taken over unless during these periods either.

If the ruling is good enough for players, then surely it's good enough for managers.

I think it would benefit the game if this were the case.

I have a few arguments for and against, but I hope you guys might find this topic interesting enough to debate amongst yourselves.

It would be interesting to know your opinions on this matter .
Thanks in advance.

 

[Goat]

Its a bad idea, normally, I find, that managers go on bad runs, this leads to them "losing the dressing room", once this happens there is no way back. If you want to protect your manager do what Everton did, make them sign a big fat long contract on huge money each week.

Then if anybody wishes to steal him, we get a fat cheque.

 

[Lao]

The windows are mad enough without bringing that into the equation. If an investor or manager were coming to a club would there be time for them to do the transfer dealing as well in the same window. Takeovers and new investment in particular takes a considerable time with due diligence etc.

I'd rather scrap the transfer windows altogether, there would be less panic buying, clubs would have the opportunity to bring a player in at a crucial time (injuries etc). Valuations of players would also settle down.

I agree that managers should be given time though, but unfortunately economic issues prevail and clubs want instant success.

 

[Goat]

The windows are mad enough without bringing that into the equation. If an investor or manager were coming to a club would there be time for them to do the transfer dealing as well in the same window. Takeovers and new investment in particular takes a considerable time with due diligence etc. I'd rather scrap the transfer windows altogether, there would be less panic buying, clubs would have the opportunity to bring a player in at a crucial time (injuries etc). Valuations of players would also settle down. I agree that managers should be given time though, but unfortunately economic issues prevail and clubs want instant success.

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[Lao]

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[FC Brugge]

Don't think manager sacking should be limited to the transfer window. like goat said, if they lose the dressing room, that rule would be disastrous for the club. What i do think could work is that a manager can't be fired for a decision made on the day, i reckon a 2 or 3 match probation period would be in order after having announced a sacking, so if the manager pulls it together because of that threat to his career, he could still keep his job. if he loses all of his probation matches though, anyone could see the sacking was justified.

 

[bluebastardo]

Lets look at it another way.

Everton are leading the table after 10 games, and City suddenly decide to sack Hughes and offer Moyes £200,000 a week.
Moyes leaves, and we get a new manager who does things totally different, and before long, we find ourselves in a relegation position.

If it happened during the summer window, we would of at least had a few months for the manager to set his stall out.

 

[Goat]

And if it happened in the Summer Window we wouldnt have been top after 10 games.

 

[bluebastardo]

And if it happened in the Summer Window we wouldnt have been top after 10 games.

The summer window was 2 lines down smarty pants , and besides, the summer window is my oposition to mid season, so yes we could have been top after 10 games .

 

[Goat]

Im not for it anyway, I think the windows regarding players work fine and Clubs should be able to hire and fire managers as and when they feel like it.

Its a multi-billion pound industry, its a dog eat dog, results driven job. It would suck if somebody came and stole Moyes, but we did steal him from Preston in the first place.

 

[bluebastardo]

Im not for it anyway, I think the windows regarding players work fine and Clubs should be able to hire and fire managers as and when they feel like it.

Its a multi-billion pound industry, its a dog eat dog, results driven job. It would suck if somebody came and stole Moyes, but we did steal him from Preston in the first place.

That's cool
Would be no discussion if everyone agreed.

 

[Wildcat]

My thoughts right or wrong

I dont think the transfare window is a good thing, Players and clubs can mess buying clubs about hiking up pirces to stupid levels knowing they either keep the player or make a killing, but to get on the point of managers i am in total agreement, if the manager looses the dressing room he has to go,
But saying that the majority of clubs in the prem are cash strapped and a new manager would want a transfare fund to bring in his own players,which puts a bigger financial strain on the club, how many times have we seen this at goodison, there are no gaurantees the investments will work,
think back to when we got Howard Kendall he bought about three full teams before he got it right ?
Fans were baying for his blood at the time if i remember rightly he got a good hiding up in blackpool,He turned out one of our greatest managers.
Its too easy these days with all the money men running clubs to dump the manager to apease the fans,
if you had the best managers in the world at every prem club there would still only be one winner, as David Moyes has proved its man management that win's respect from the fans and players.
yes it would be great to get the sort of investment Liverpool Chelsea & man unt have, but if it meant we lost Moyes because the investors wanted a Big Name up front dont think we would all feel the same about our club.?