2020/21 Marcel Brands

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Since Ancelotti has come in the club has been on the up in all areas. All the signings regarded as bad by Brands all came pre-Ancelotti and everything since is good so why break it up.
 

Neiler said:
The thing i look at, at he Gueye deal is the value, decision making and impact. You can see the logic in isolation of the one deal of selling a player hitting 30 for the 30 odd mill fee we got. You do however have to turn that into value and to your advantage and bring a positive impact - that didn't happen.

Since we sold him, we have spent:

£25 mill on Gbamin
£8.5 mill on Delph
£20 mill on The Duke
£22 mill on Allan.

Then you think about wages of the above.

I wont include Gomes.

Thats £30 mill in and the guts of £80 mill spent, trying to replace him. You have to question the decisions made there and if we got value out of what looked like a good value deal.

I think you also have to look at the impact to, we basically had no midfield last season and it absolutely torpedoed our season and hopes of progress to Europe, it also impacted on the value of other players. How much would Sigursdson have been worth after hitting double digits in attacking returns after Silvas first season, hes not worth much now after being shunted into central midfield and over urn for a year.

Its things like the above i find it very hard to reconcile, because they impart on the club welfare on and off the pitch so much.
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Exactly.

It was a disastrous decision that had many ramifications. I'd say it's the job of the DoF to see that far ahead (and the clues were there given the season Gueye had just put in). It was his call and it cost us dearly. He owns it.
 

Think his signings overall have been a success but for me it's more what he hasn't done.

He improves us year on year no doubt but year on year misses out on key signings/positions

We've needed a RB for years and he hasn't sorted that, selling gueye for gbamin was strange ( no one could have predicted his injuries tbf ) not signing a striker as back up for DCL when the only other striker we had is tosun who is that bad he couldn't even play back up to DCL bexause he played a game against Rotherham the week before.

Think the doucoure signing was a year late, we've needed legs in the middle for a long time
 
So, in this thread we have a lot of fly on the walls buzzing around the offices of Everton knowing about all who made every decision on every single signing and what everybody does on a day to day basis.

Director of Football, Chief Scout or flumpty, every club needs somebody to do various jobs and I could not give a crap what the name was. I don't understand this 'hatred' of the DoF role. It will work differently at every single club and it will have different names at different clubs, how it exactly works with us, I have absolutely no clue whatsoever. Brands could recommend players to Ancelotti and vice versa, I would assume that this was the case (basing it on who we have signed, i.e some players that Ancelotti has worked with and signed before and some players he may have had little to no knowledge of and the fact that is the most logical way to work in any company, communication and partnership is the key).

So, in conclusion, every signing is on the club because you never know exactly how much work from all parties went into the finding/scouting/negotiations.

Who knows, Godfrey could have been seen a few years ago by Unsworth in the U23's and mentioned it and somebody noted it down for future use, if needed. We just don't know.

I know that does not add anything to the debate but because I don't know I would finish on that Brands should stay if Ancelotti is happy with him.
 

Carloblues said:
Think his signings overall have been a success but for me it's more what he hasn't done.

He improves us year on year no doubt but year on year misses out on key signings/positions

We've needed a RB for years and he hasn't sorted that, selling gueye for gbamin was strange ( no one could have predicted his injuries tbf ) not signing a striker as back up for DCL when the only other striker we had is tosun who is that bad he couldn't even play back up to DCL bexause he played a game against Rotherham the week before.

Think the doucoure signing was a year late, we've needed legs in the middle for a long time
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It was never going to be a situation where he solved all problems right away so gradual improvement should be expected. For right back, I think it was a situation where Coleman was still seen as serviceable while other positions were just plain bad. We also had a let’s wait and see right back in Kenny. The striker thing still confuses me though. Loaning Kean and not replacing him was just an odd thing to do. If the thought was that Rich would fill that, then we needed another winger. In general, I think he’s done a decent job cleaning up a pretty big mess, but it’s fair to want a little more.
 

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