2024/25 Michael Keane

[Joey66]

I'd argue that playing next to Keane is unsettling for the other players in the back 4. A good defensive line is all about everyone being in the right place at the right time, covering eachother if they need to.

It's what makes Branthwaite such a good player, obviously he's a beast physically but his reading of the game is what makes him elite. Always in the right place, facing the right way to be able to deal with whatevers coming.

If you watch Keane closely it's the total opposite. He's always slightly out of position, normally facing the complete wrong direction and having to twist his body and look over his shoulder to see where the danger is.

I don't think Tarkowski is fully fit but don't think it's helped him having to babysit Keane through these 3 matches.

He scored a vital open goal & your still not pleased ?

 

[MikeH72]

He scored a vital open goal & your still not pleased ?

It wasn’t that vital was it.

 

[Mr Mig]

Scored our 1st goal. Tarky gets off scot free from criticism. He is an easy target - when in reality the whole team are absolute crap.

In fairness, good point this. Tarkowski gets away with a lot, his positioning in the box is shocking

 

[preposterousvelios]

He scored a vital open goal & your still not pleased ?

No mate, we lost the match by conceding the same goal 3 times in about 5 minutes so no I'm not pleased because Michael Keane scored a goal.

We had the 2nd best defensive record in the league last season. This season we've conceded 10 in our first 3 with the only change being that he's come in for Branthwaite.

How much more clear can it be that he is a problem?

 

[MikeH72]

No mate, we lost the match by conceding the same goal 3 times in about 5 minutes so no I'm not pleased because Michael Keane scored a goal.

We had the 2nd best defensive record in the league last season. This season we've conceded 10 in our first 3 with the only change being that he's come in for Branthwaite.

How much more clear can it be that he is a problem?

People just cannot look beyond “hurr durrr it wasn’t his fault” and see the bigger picture. There is a very good reason that our record with him in the side is as bad as it is. And it isn’t coincidentally everyone around him just happening to fall apart for no reason.

 

[Joey66]

No mate, we lost the match by conceding the same goal 3 times in about 5 minutes so no I'm not pleased because Michael Keane scored a goal.

We had the 2nd best defensive record in the league last season. This season we've conceded 10 in our first 3 with the only change being that he's come in for Branthwaite.

How much more clear can it be that he is a problem?

Our full backs were just perfect then ?

 

[Blue peter]

His Everton career in a nutshell, all that was missing was him giving away a penalty

That’s next week

 

[Joey66]

Our full backs were just perfect then ?

Keane is only a reserve CB - I get that but blaming him alone for that debacle when it was Dyches fault!

 

[COYBL25]

Our full backs were just perfect then ?

His presence spreads unease in the defence and with Pickford Joey.

They`re constantly getting pulled out of position covering for him and he`s a mistake waiting to happen.

He can only play effectively, when he plays on the edge of the box.

The goals conceded ratio when he plays, tells you all you need to know.

 

[preposterousvelios]

Our full backs were just perfect then ?

Refer to my previous reply:

I'd argue that playing next to Keane is unsettling for the other players in the back 4. A good defensive line is all about everyone being in the right place at the right time, covering eachother if they need to.

It's what makes Branthwaite such a good player, obviously he's a beast physically but his reading of the game is what makes him elite. Always in the right place, facing the right way to be able to deal with whatevers coming.

If you watch Keane closely it's the total opposite. He's always slightly out of position, normally facing the complete wrong direction and having to twist his body and look over his shoulder to see where the danger is.

I don't think Tarkowski is fully fit but don't think it's helped him having to babysit Keane through these 3 matches.

It's not a binary where you have to pick one option of who's fault it is out of Dyche, Keane or all the players combined. There's plenty of blame to go around for this monumental failure.

My point is that Keane can't be starting as he has a track record, proven time and time again of being an absolute liability. Whenever he plays we tend to concede far more goals than when he doesn't play. Simple as that for me.

 

[Blue peter]

Keanes last ten games starting for us

Played 10, won 2, lost 8
Scored 4, conceded 29
Conceded 3 or more goals in 7 out of those 10 games.
5 games conceded 3, 2 games conceded 4, one game conceded 6.

The lad should never play for us again.

We should send those stats to Dyche as he clearly hasn’t seen them, or thinks he knows more than the stats

 

[bluestevon]

We should send those stats to Dyche as he clearly hasn’t seen them, or thinks he knows more than the stats

Yeah we've actually conceded 30 and one of those 3 conceded should have been a 4

 

[MikeH72]

His Everton career would’ve been over had anyone other than Dyche took over from Lampard. He was exiled at that time, and was given a reprieve when his old Burnley mate came in. That reprieve nearly sent us down until the manager was forced to bring Mina in for the last 4 games that season as well.

 

[Del-boy]

Dope

 

[Joey66]

His presence spreads unease in the defence and with Pickford Joey.

They`re constantly getting pulled out of position covering for him and he`s a mistake waiting to happen.

He can only play effectively, when he plays on the edge of the box.

The goals conceded ratio when he plays, tells you all you need to know.

If we had won which we should have done because of a useless Manager- everyone would be in joy with that first goal by him - I would prefer to see Jake O'brien but the Manager cost us thar game & should go....