2019/20 Moise Kean

[Jeff Jones]

Well no, I've literally just explained that to you. You said he looked puffed out and asked how he could be match fit without playing. I'm saying you don't need to play to be fit enough not to be puffed out after 20 minutes on the pitch. Cardio fitness is nothing to do with being match fit.

I know exactly what you meant, but it depends on how you define 'match fit'. Players who've been injured and out for as little as ,say, three weeks are often
referred to as not being match fit. Their level of cardio fitness would be unlikely to have fallen to such a level as to be puffed out in such a short time.
If Kean's cardio fitness was at a level that you'd expect in someone who trains regularly in an elite sport, which is likely, why was he puffed out so quickly?
There's no point in us being pedantic with each other. I'm just posing the question.

 

[little elfin]

...but he played really well along side Ronaldo and Dybala

 

[okellypj]

Think Ancelloti could be great for him. Fellow Italian and top manager.

 

[Rob17896]

Or the 1-1 that it actually was.

The point was that he made the change to secure the result.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Looks a talent to me, needs a manager to build up his obviously low confidence and Sunday won't have helped, Carlo will give him a boost.

 

[firefighterblue]

Looks a talent to me, needs a manager to build up his obviously low confidence and Sunday won't have helped, Carlo will give him a boost.

Agree with this. Trouble with a lot of these young talents is they are in big money at an early age and forget to put the effort in to improve.
But a good manager could sort him out. An example being Sterling at city. Had it all then stalled over his goalscoring. Pep gave him some stick and now Sterling has upped his game probably through working hard in training.
This is what Keane needs to do.

 

[Lanolin]

I know exactly what you meant, but it depends on how you define 'match fit'. Players who've been injured and out for as little as ,say, three weeks are often
referred to as not being match fit. Their level of cardio fitness would be unlikely to have fallen to such a level as to be puffed out in such a short time.
If Kean's cardio fitness was at a level that you'd expect in someone who trains regularly in an elite sport, which is likely, why was he puffed out so quickly?
There's no point in us being pedantic with each other. I'm just posing the question.

I'm not being pedantic, I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Again you've said that a player could be out for 3 weeks and said not to be match fit, but their cardio levels would be fine. I'm saying yes, that's absolutely right, because match fitness and cardio levels are not the same thing!

Kean's issues on sunday didn't appear to be related to match fitness, but to general fitness. The two are completely different. Match sharpness is equivalent to ring rust in boxing. You can train and spar and be in great physical condition to go 12 rounds, but your ring craft, timing, decision making etc can be a little off because you're out of practice. Turning up to a fight like Andy Ruiz the other week isn't ring rust, it's lack of conditioning. It's the same here, snatching at a chance or struggling to 'get the tempo' of a game can be match sharpness issues, blowing for tugs after 10 minutes isn't.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It's up to him to impress the new manager. If he trains well and performs then he'll play regularly.

If he sulks and is half arsed then he'll not last long in this league. Its entirely his choice.

 

[nsno-chris]

Wonder our fans will react when Carlo launches him in January

 

[bullybeef]

Kean likes the appointment of Carlos.

I reckon this kid’s Everton career will really take off now.

 

[Jeff Jones]

I'm not being pedantic, I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Again you've said that a player could be out for 3 weeks and said not to be match fit, but their cardio levels would be fine. I'm saying yes, that's absolutely right, because match fitness and cardio levels are not the same thing!

Kean's issues on sunday didn't appear to be related to match fitness, but to general fitness. The two are completely different. Match sharpness is equivalent to ring rust in boxing. You can train and spar and be in great physical condition to go 12 rounds, but your ring craft, timing, decision making etc can be a little off because you're out of practice. Turning up to a fight like Andy Ruiz the other week isn't ring rust, it's lack of conditioning. It's the same here, snatching at a chance or struggling to 'get the tempo' of a game can be match sharpness issues, blowing for tugs after 10 minutes isn't.

I said, I know what you meant.

 

[Lanolin]

I said, I know what you meant.

You did. But you were evidently wrong so...

 

[granter79]

Ideal appointment for Moise. Carlo's man mgmt. is second to none so you would hope he will get the best out of him.

I think the kid will be a superstar if he gets his attitude right.

 

[Jeff Jones]

You did. But you were evidently wrong so...

I wonder whether or not Kean would have been puffing and blowing and generally appearing so unfit after 10 minutes on Sunday if he'd been starting
matches regularly this season. You can have the last word on this subject if you like, because that's mine.

 

[Lanolin]

I wonder whether or not Kean would have been puffing and blowing and generally appearing so unfit after 10 minutes on Sunday if he'd been starting
matches regularly this season. You can have the last word on this subject if you like, because that's mine.

And I wonder whether perhaps if he wasn't appearing so unfit after 10 minutes he would be starting matches regularly this season.