2019/20 Moise Kean

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Ancelotti rates his countryman highly, as he told Goal.com in April: "I was impressed and surprised by Kean. His beginning of the year was amazing and there’s been careful management of the player, on and off the field."

Should the rumours be true and the former Chelsea, Milan, PSG and Bayern Munich coach come on board at Goodison Park, it would certainly seem to bode well for Kean, who let's not forget is a young player who's still adapting not only to a new style of football but a new country, and would certainly benefit from Ancelotti's guidance.


Keano gonna bang in 15 this season under El Capo Carlo
 
Wonder if ancelotti already spoke with the player bearing in mind what happened on Sunday...wouldn't surprise me...there hasn't been much noise from kean which it's surprising. Many players would have either refuse to train or even go on strike until they get the move they want.
 
Wonder if ancelotti already spoke with the player bearing in mind what happened on Sunday...wouldn't surprise me...there hasn't been much noise from kean which it's surprising. Many players would have either refuse to train or even go on strike until they get the move they want.
He only got substituted. It was questionable, and he'll have been embarrassed by it, but you can't be going on strike because you got subbed off. Honestly it's nowhere near as big a deal as is being made out in some quarters.
 
I wonder whether or not Kean would have been puffing and blowing and generally appearing so unfit after 10 minutes on Sunday if he'd been starting
matches regularly this season. You can have the last word on this subject if you like, because that's mine.
And I wonder whether perhaps if he wasn't appearing so unfit after 10 minutes he would be starting matches regularly this season.

Probably a bit of both. I also wonder if he could be suffering from the bug going round as well. Even the beginning of a cold can make a total difference to someone's levels, and honestly, he didn't look nearly as bad in the Derby as he did on Sunday. It seems weird he would be less fit after whatever sessions Ferguson has had them doing, unless he has struggled to match the upped intensity in training and he is fatigued from that. It's only 2 weeks ago.
 

He's been paid a fortune and he can't even get himself in shape which then lead to him not being able/willing to follow instructions. Real shame but this kid looks like a dud so far. hopefully this is the kick up the arse he needs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50802290

Just how off the pace was Kean?
In the 18 minutes he was on he did not manage a shot of any type. Not particularly great for a striker and especially one still searching for his first goal for the club but then Everton were, at that point, under pressure from the hosts and instead holding out for a point rather than going for a win.
In terms of his general play, Kean had nine touches of the ball - the fewest of any player until his replacement, Niasse, came on for the final two minutes and touched the ball four times.
Kean won none of his five duels with Manchester United players, and lost the ball six times while making no tackles.
Niasse, in contrast, won 50% of his duels and did not lose possession once while making two tackles - as many as centre-back Michael Keane.
Those statistics perhaps justify the tactical reasoning behind the change, but what do you think?
 
Dunc subbing this kid with Carlo coming in might have just worked out perfectly. Gives him the kick up the rear he needs. Maybe Everton need to make a video montage of all the kids in his position who now play lower league football because they didn't apply themselves properly. He trained with Ronaldo, he should already know what's needed though. That's concerning.
 
I know exactly what you meant, but it depends on how you define 'match fit'. Players who've been injured and out for as little as ,say, three weeks are often
referred to as not being match fit. Their level of cardio fitness would be unlikely to have fallen to such a level as to be puffed out in such a short time.
If Kean's cardio fitness was at a level that you'd expect in someone who trains regularly in an elite sport, which is likely, why was he puffed out so quickly?
There's no point in us being pedantic with each other. I'm just posing the question.

There was a bug going round the squad, maybe he had a bit of it but didn't realize it?

(Or like @Kever10 said further up...)
 
He's been paid a fortune and he can't even get himself in shape which then lead to him not being able/willing to follow instructions. Real shame but this kid looks like a dud so far. hopefully this is the kick up the arse he needs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50802290

Just how off the pace was Kean?

In terms of his general play, Kean had nine touches of the ball - the fewest of any player until his replacement, Niasse, came on for the final two minutes and touched the ball four times.

Kean won none of his five duels with Manchester United players, and lost the ball six times while making no tackles.

Niasse, in contrast, won 50% of his duels and did not lose possession once while making two tackles - as many as centre-back Michael Keane.

That speaks volumes.

Substitution was entirley justified whether it was lack of effort or down to a bug.
 

He's been paid a fortune and he can't even get himself in shape which then lead to him not being able/willing to follow instructions. Real shame but this kid looks like a dud so far. hopefully this is the kick up the arse he needs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50802290

Just how off the pace was Kean?
In the 18 minutes he was on he did not manage a shot of any type. Not particularly great for a striker and especially one still searching for his first goal for the club but then Everton were, at that point, under pressure from the hosts and instead holding out for a point rather than going for a win.
In terms of his general play, Kean had nine touches of the ball - the fewest of any player until his replacement, Niasse, came on for the final two minutes and touched the ball four times.
Kean won none of his five duels with Manchester United players, and lost the ball six times while making no tackles.
Niasse, in contrast, won 50% of his duels and did not lose possession once while making two tackles - as many as centre-back Michael Keane.
Those statistics perhaps justify the tactical reasoning behind the change, but what do you think?

To be that badly outdone by found-object oddity and random-football-movement-generator Niasse,* in 18 minutes vs two minutes, is 100x more shame than being subbed off.

*Before you get on me, I like and esteem Oumar Niasse the human being.
 
Some people saying as if he is the worst subs
in football history.
I saw many players in the blue shirt played badly than him more than 90 minutes or almost the whole time when they were here :Blink:
 
He's been paid a fortune and he can't even get himself in shape which then lead to him not being able/willing to follow instructions. Real shame but this kid looks like a dud so far. hopefully this is the kick up the arse he needs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50802290

Just how off the pace was Kean?
In the 18 minutes he was on he did not manage a shot of any type. Not particularly great for a striker and especially one still searching for his first goal for the club but then Everton were, at that point, under pressure from the hosts and instead holding out for a point rather than going for a win.
In terms of his general play, Kean had nine touches of the ball - the fewest of any player until his replacement, Niasse, came on for the final two minutes and touched the ball four times.
Kean won none of his five duels with Manchester United players, and lost the ball six times while making no tackles.
Niasse, in contrast, won 50% of his duels and did not lose possession once while making two tackles - as many as centre-back Michael Keane.
Those statistics perhaps justify the tactical reasoning behind the change, but what do you think?
In terms of the game there is not disputing it was a sensible change. It's the long term ramifications that make it questionable.
 
In terms of the game there is not disputing it was a sensible change. It's the long term ramifications that make it questionable.
If we were in a different position, both in the league and trying to gain some momentum ahead of a key cup tie, I’d have been far more critical of the move.

But we desperately needed that draw at United not only for the point itself but also to continue the positivity around the club. I feel for the lad and really hope that work has been done to resolve things post match but long term ramifications to Everton sadly are the priority.
 

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