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I'll start shooting up H, if that fat horror comes in.GET H IN .
Because we're football fans? Football is all about emotion, it's not rational. It's literally part of the point of the sport, legitimized tribalism. Fans believe that we're all in it together, that Everton as an institution actually means something and we're all united by a set of ideals or whatever. Of course the reality is different, but it's effectively a willing suspension of disbelief. Something like this goes against what what the majority of football fans - not just Evertonians - see as a basic principle of supporting their team. Trying to take the emotion out of it or look at it rationally is just ignoring/fundamentally misunderstanding what football actually is to many people.I mean Benitez is far from my first choice. I'd sooner have Martinez back in all honesty.
But, why are people so unwilling to accept he may be capable of doing a great job with us. Fudging the reality of the job he did at Newcastle, making blanket statements about his time in China etc.
I couldn't stand him when he managed the RS. I was shouting FSW from the stands. But time has passed and I CBA holding grudges 15 years old.
You, the guys and girls holding childish grudges, are the ones making it toxic. He'll just be trying to get success to the best of his ability.
You've got me all wrong, brother. You must have missed the last sentence of my post where I commended your magnanimity and generosity. I too think "Rafael" will be great, as you correctly pointed out he won the Champions League with our biggest rivals 16 years ago. If that isn't a qualification to manage Everton in 2021 I don't know what is.You got me , I joined in 2008 and have been biding my time for the last 13 years until Benitez became linked with the Everton job! Think my first post was ancelotti leaving? No ulterior motive been supporting Everton since days of snods and Alan Harper, not working at the moment so got nothing better to do
This is why fans don’t choose the managers……because they can’t take the emotion and tribalism outBecause we're football fans? Football is all about emotion, it's not rational. It's literally part of the point of the sport, legitimized tribalism. Fans believe that we're all in it together, that Everton as an institution actually means something and we're all united by a set of ideals or whatever. Of course the reality is different, but it's effectively a willing suspension of disbelief. Something like this goes against what what the majority of football fans - not just Evertonians - see as a basic principle of supporting their team. Trying to take the emotion out of it or look at it rationally is just ignoring/fundamentally misunderstanding what football actually is to many people.
Why are pretty much all of your managerial choices unemployed?Do the maths Matty. Who else are we going to appoint?
Nuno - interviewed and we decided to swerve due to his demands
Favre - Gone to CP
Conte - Never in a million years
Martinez - Will take Belgium to WC next year
Loew - Been international manager for about 17 years - would never be able to transition to club football in the PL
Gattuso - Too inexperienced and volatile (big risk)
Fonseca - Nope. Not interested in coming to UK due to tax implications
Galtier - Gone to Nice
Howe - Too much of a risk for the board
Potter - contracted to Brighton - following the Sliva incident we have probably been warned off approaches to in-contract managers in the PL
Rangnick - Never on the boards radar
Ferguson - Too inexperienced (big risk)
So who does that leave?
Benitez
That seems to be our default in recent yearsWhy are pretty much all of your managerial choices unemployed?
Never said he’d be great, said I’d support him if he does well,You've got me all wrong, brother. You must have missed the last sentence of my post where I commended your magnanimity and generosity. I too think "Rafael" will be great, as you correctly pointed out he won the Champions League with our biggest rivals 16 years ago. If that isn't a qualification to manage Everton in 2021 I don't know what is.
I think we've been warned off approaching in-contract PL managers due to the Silva thing. Who do you think we should have pursued and offered the job too?Why are pretty much all of your managerial choices unemployed?
I can see all the lads on here going full ‘Lord of the flies’ levels of tribalism if FSW gets in, there will be human sacrifice and all manner of tomfoolery going onBecause we're football fans? Football is all about emotion, it's not rational. It's literally part of the point of the sport, legitimized tribalism. Fans believe that we're all in it together, that Everton as an institution actually means something and we're all united by a set of ideals or whatever. Of course the reality is different, but it's effectively a willing suspension of disbelief. Something like this goes against what what the majority of football fans - not just Evertonians - see as a basic principle of supporting their team. Trying to take the emotion out of it or look at it rationally is just ignoring/fundamentally misunderstanding what football actually is to many people.
Marcel BrandsWe were all saying “can’t believe Carlo Ancelotti is our manager,” now we will all be saying “can’t believe Rafael Benitez is our manager,” in a slightly different tone. Can’t wait for the next few updates: “Can’t believe Trevor Mcdonald is our new manager… can’t believe H from Steps is our new manager…”
For the under 8sMarcel Brands
"I have full confidence that Ian Watkins will bring the club the glory it deserves"
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Niko Kovac. He's not in the Premier League. Emery. He's not in the Premier League. Any of the dozen or so managers that are in Germany that didn't jump on their merry-go-round. Or, I don't know, one of the 40 candidates that we supposedly said they wanted the job.I think we've been warned off approaching in-contract PL managers due to the Silva thing. Who do you think we should have pursued and offered the job too?
No, and we don't want it taken it out for us.This is why fans don’t choose the managers……because they can’t take the emotion and tribalism out
I understand what you're saying here. But it's somewhat aligned with what I'm trying to say.Because we're football fans? Football is all about emotion, it's not rational. It's literally part of the point of the sport, legitimized tribalism. Fans believe that we're all in it together, that Everton as an institution actually means something and we're all united by a set of ideals or whatever. Of course the reality is different, but it's effectively a willing suspension of disbelief. Something like this goes against what what the majority of football fans - not just Evertonians - see as a basic principle of supporting their team. Trying to take the emotion out of it or look at it rationally is just ignoring/fundamentally misunderstanding what football actually is to many people.