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New Everton Stadium

If there is enough pressure from neighbouring councils or the local people, they will have to call it in ( Which would roughly add another year to the planning process )

I guess it all depends on what the person in charge considers to be 'enough pressure' to call it in then. I remember that it was Hazel Blears last time, as she was the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government at the time. The current Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government is this sexy fellow:

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He is Eric Pickles. He was responsible for the Localism Act 2011, which is supposed to give local citizens a greater say in the government of their community, it uses the word referendum a lot. However it seems Pickles is not shy of making controversial decisions, like this:

"The National Grid had applied to Tewkesbury Borough Council to build a gas plant just outside Tirley in Gloucestershire. The installation would occupy more than 16 acres and the application had been opposed by more than 1,000 residents in a sparsely populated rural area, by 12 parish councils and by every member of the planning committee of the local planning authority. Rejecting the local opposition, Pickles chose to grant permission to build the gas plant".

I think KMBC could only really object if there was a significant retail development alongside the stadium, which I don't think there will be. The RS encountered opposition over their plans to build on Stanley Park but it wasn't called in.
 
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You won't make much money in social housing.

I'd doubt we have anything to do with that side, that's where the council come in

It won't necessarily be all social housing, I would expect a mixed tenure approach with that number of houses, which could increase the value of GP as part of the funding stream. Or it may be a mixed retail/housing scheme to maximise the land values.
 
I was thinking before about what would happen to Goodison Park when we eventually leave it. I like what Arsenal did with Highbury but we couldn't do the same for various reasons. I wonder if anything (and what) would be built on it again. Feels weird.
 
I guess it all depends on what the person in charge considers to be 'enough pressure' to call it in then. I remember that it was Hazel Blears last time, as she was the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government at the time. The current Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government is this sexy fellow:

pickles_2182265b.jpg


He is Eric Pickles. He was responsible for the Localism Act 2011, which is supposed to give local citizens a greater say in the government of their community, it uses the word referendum a lot. However it seems Pickles is not shy of making controversial decisions, like this:

"The National Grid had applied to Tewkesbury Borough Council to build a gas plant just outside Tirley in Gloucestershire. The installation would occupy more than 16 acres and the application had been opposed by more than 1,000 residents in a sparsely populated rural area, by 12 parish councils and by every member of the planning committee of the local planning authority. Rejecting the local opposition, Pickles chose to grant permission to build the gas plant".

I think KMBC could only really object if there was a significant retail development alongside the stadium, which I don't think there will be. The RS encountered opposition over their plans to build on Stanley Park but it wasn't called in.

Anything to do with power generation will get passed, In the next few years we face a shortage when the nuclear plants reach the end of there shelf life.

Same with Fracking, they will get the green light soon when Russia threaten to cut off the gas supplies.
 

This is the problem with this country, too much red tape, too many nimbys, too much faffing.
Death by committee

And we wonder why this country is going to the dogs.
 
I genuinely dont think neither the council nor Everton could afford to go public on this without it being more down the line than is suggested.

Why?

Council plans for next ten years could not include something with no hope of taking place..

The council need this to happen as much as the club
 
I was thinking before about what would happen to Goodison Park when we eventually leave it. I like what Arsenal did with Highbury but we couldn't do the same for various reasons. I wonder if anything (and what) would be built on it again. Feels weird.
I've done a short article that you may see soon that touches on that.

I want this new ground, especially as it's so close, but it'll be a sad day to leave GP.
 
I was amazed today to see the WHP story fill the front page of the Echo with a little side section about the RS new ground.

Couldn't believe my eyes in fact. Think they got the sizes mixed up.
 
How much extra would we get from once the stadium is built. Extra 10,000 seats which is close to there really being an extra 13,000 or so given how infrequently people want to sit in the really obstructed views. The massive increase in corporate seats would be a huge boon as well.

AS I've been conservative in all estimates i'm going to take the liberty of saying an extra £20m a year. £200m to build = all debts paid off in 12 years or so.

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' Riskfree' 12 year money (gilts) is about 3.5%. Everton might lend at 7%(??...too low?). To retire a 200mio debt over 12 years would take about a 25mio quid/year payment schedule. Bottom line : VERY important Everton performs well on the pitch in England....and in Europe.
 
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' Riskfree' 12 year money (gilts) is about 3.5%. Everton might lend at 7%(??...too low?). To retire a 200mio debt over 12 years would take about a 25mio quid/year payment schedule. At 9% it's 28mio/year Bottom line : VERY important Everton performs well on the pitch in England....and in Europe.
 
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