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New Everton Stadium

Looking forward to this. There's a big problem currently for people who can't get to the game regularly and maybe only know at short notice when they can make it. Getting tickets a few days ahead that aren't restricted view is near impossible unless you go on the likes of StubHub and pay through the nose. Look at West Hams attendances this season! Being able to cater to people who think "Why not go?" at the last moment will potentially put a few thousand on the average gate.

There definitely shouldn't be any burden on the City though and the finances have to be completely sound. And no running track - get the crowd right on top of the pitch!
 

davek said:
We await detail on who pays what to whom. It's great that things are taking shape and there appears to be harmony and now partnership with the local state we've been bumping heads with for so long. But when the dust settles on this apparent funding package a number of major issues are going to emerge, and we better be ready for them:

1/ The inevitable furore over a city council that has made £400M worth of cuts exposing itself to almost as much again for the sake of a privately owned football club.
2/ (relatedly) The spotlight will fall on Moshiri as a very wealthy man fire-walling himself from any financial fall out if it all went wrong and leaving public institutions with the onerous task of paying back banks.
3/ (again relatedly) The impact on the club given the massive amount of borrowing if it should fail and its inability to pay back the debt without losing its home - or control over it (see Coventry a few years back when they ended up as tenants and eventually turfed out).
4/ The very real probability, given the two points above, of opposition and an inquiry (and, regardless of Anderson's clout, the possibility of objections at council level).
5/ The figure of £350M looks like rock bottom and will over the course of the project, should it go forward, WILL rise again and again - thus multiplying the dangers of other points made so far.


Today and the announced plan = easy bit.
Tomorrow - the firestorm of awkward questions and publicity.
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If they are getting a rumoured 4million per year plus the whole influx of jobs/regeneration of the city and possible commonwealth games on the back of this..I can't see where the firestorm will come from.

If the people of the city are happy to just stagnate and reject economic growth we might as well just give up on life itself.

Only firestorm will come from the Walton Hall Park Dog walking Society.
 
Eggs said:
...the funding stream is yet to be confirmed but I'm sure a full risk assessment will have been undertaken and many of the points you legitimately raise will surely be addressed from the outset.
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I'm sure the answers will be in place. What we're dealing with here though is a lot of perception. If this project if funded the way we think it is, anyone thinking this just gets announced and rolls out unproblematically are living in cloud cuckoo land.

It is massively controversial, not just for local ratepayers, but for the potential impact it will have on the club.
 

davek said:
We await detail on who pays what to whom. It's great that things are taking shape and there appears to be harmony and now partnership with the local state we've been bumping heads with for so long. But when the dust settles on this apparent funding package a number of major issues are going to emerge, and we better be ready for them:

1/ The inevitable furore over a city council that has made £400M worth of cuts exposing itself to almost as much again for the sake of a privately owned football club.
2/ (relatedly) The spotlight will fall on Moshiri as a very wealthy man fire-walling himself from any financial fall out if it all went wrong and leaving public institutions with the onerous task of paying back banks.
3/ (again relatedly) The impact on the club given the massive amount of borrowing if it should fail and its inability to pay back the debt without losing its home - or control over it (see Coventry a few years back when they ended up as tenants and eventually turfed out).
4/ The very real probability, given the points above, of opposition and an inquiry (and, regardless of Anderson's clout, the possibility of objections at council level).
5/ The figure of £350M looks like rock bottom and over the course of the project, should it go forward, WILL rise again and again - thus multiplying the dangers of other points made so far.


Today and the announced plan = easy bit.
Tomorrow - the firestorm of awkward questions and publicity.
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Bore off Dave. Let yourself go and soak it up just for one day.

Everton are on the rise.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Got to feel sorry for them, they were promised a spade in the ground within 100 days, a state of the art stadium in Stanley Park, a football quarter, they were laughing at us when the council asked them about a ground share. Then they shot their load too early, had to be bailed out of certain administration, and their new overlords having picked them up on the cheap have told them to shut up and be happy with a meccano extension to their stand. Even better, if you can find a seat in there that isn't corporate it has a restricted view lol. It must rankle that we're now realising everything they were too stupid and greedy to have. We were prudent and tightened our belts spending only what we had. They spent a load of money that wasn't theirs. Karma.
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Going to have great view of our new gaff in that IKEA flat pack build
 
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davek said:
I'm sure the answers will be in place. What we're dealing with here though is a lot of perception. If this project if funded the way we think it is, anyone thinking this just gets announced and rolls out unproblematically are living in cloud cuckoo land.

It is massively controversial, not just for local ratepayers, but for the potential impact it will have on the club.
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...absolutely, but as soon as this was originally mentioned a number of us said there would be resistance. I hope the standard of businessmen involved in brokering the deal means we wouldn't be at this stage if they weren't confident of overcoming challenges to the governance process.
 

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