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New Everton Stadium

Theres only two or three teams that can realistically win the premier league becuase of finances. Before Kenwright took over we sold our best player every year and were fighting relegation now we are a top eight team,that by anyones standards is success.

united, arsenal, city and chelsea have won the league since he's been in charge. the stability you refer to was because of moyes only really. a lot of managers would have taken us down with the budgets he was given.
 
That's such a silly statement to make, for a number of reasons.

First of all 'KEIOC' didn't 'struggle to get any real support'. KEIOC successfully argued that the Kirkby stadium plans were deeply flawed, as proven at a public enquiry ordered by the Government, in which a judge ruled against letting the plans go ahead. The plans weren't sustainable in numerous ways, the biggest being that the finances simply did not add up. The whole point of 'KEIOC' - Keep Everton In Our City was as their name described. As a new stadium is now being planned IN OUR CITY, I would suggest that they have more than achieved their aim.

As for the Blue Union, if you cut through all the spin and all the baloney, the facts are this: they exposed how shabby Everton internal affairs were at that time, in summer 2011. Not so coincidentally, things have improved A LOT at the club since the summer of 2011. Why? Because many of the people at the centre of the much criticised stuff have since moved on and left the club. There was the supposed leaking of a Kenwright meeting transcript - no tape was ever found and it was always denied that the conversation was recorded. It was simply very proficient notes made. The marches before the games in 2011 came at a time when we hadn't signed a player on a permanent transfer for anything more than a nominal fee for TWO SEASONS. Again, things have changed greatly since then. The spin against the Blue Union was very prominent in the local media; the Echo refused point blank to cover many of the public meetings, and it was only when Neville Southall attended one at the Casa that they finally sent someone (Neil Jones). The numbers attending the marches before games was significant, yet was laughably dismissed as 'one man and his dog' by the likes of Sharp on the radio.

Again, facts - the Blue Union didn't just criticise, they made numerous suggestions as to how Everton could improve things. One was how the club markets itself to potential investors. 6 months after the Blue Union released their suggestions, Everton themselves adopted numerous aspects of what the Blue Union had been suggesting all along. So this idea that the Blue Union lot talked a load of nonsense without substance was utterly disproven - given that the club themselves quietly adopted many of their ideas.

And to top it all, the Blue Union has focused its' efforts of late on reducing ticket prices for fans and making matches more affordable. They have attended numerous rallies on London on the subject.

I am not affiliated in any way with the Blue Union, but a lot of the raw deal they get are from complete misconceptions regarding their views, aims, objectives and stances. They are just Evertonians like you and I, and care deeply about the club.
Voice of reason.....
 
united, arsenal, city and chelsea have won the league since he's been in charge. the stability you refer to was because of moyes only really. a lot of managers would have taken us down with the budgets he was given.

a really interesting point, never thought about that ! this is why I can't completely hate moyes like some on here
 
Kenwright has brought stability and success to this club (now definitely seen as at least a top eight club) after the disasterous Peter Johnson era. The vast majority of Evertonians can see this and thats why Blue Union and Keioc struggle to get any real support.

Seriously, give your head a wobble. Perhaps an ovaltine may help, but after all you are talking absolute sh1te there.
 

You know if you ask non- Everton fan about our strenghts as a club...theyll probs say something like @nil satis did.

Luckily majority of toffees share this feeling.

Haters gonna hate.

Opinion. It's a peculiar thing. If we do what the club do and break down into the categories of demographics you will see where support lies for Kenwright and those that think "the majority of toffees" feel.

The outside perception isn't really generated by experience or knowledge of anything other than the media line the club has allowed for over a decade, anyone not following the accepted narrative is heaved out.

So this feeling you speak of is saccharin, manufactured, dictated and created based on what is allowed to be known.

It's great that the majority of toffees share that feeling, but those that state that as a fact and not opinion display a gullible sheep like spoon fed mentality that the club's hierarchy adore, the pliable ones who will believe and do anything to maintain the status quo.

You see, lovers gonna love, sheep is gonna bleat...
 
Kenwright has brought stability and success to this club (now definitely seen as at least a top eight club) after the disasterous Peter Johnson era. The vast majority of Evertonians can see this and thats why Blue Union and Keioc struggle to get any real support.

There's certainly been no success worthy of our heritage during his tenure except possibly the EITC programme.

As for stability the sheer amount of CEO's and heads of departments we have seen turnover during his watch suggests the opposite.
 
Opinion. It's a peculiar thing. If we do what the club do and break down into the categories of demographics you will see where support lies for Kenwright and those that think "the majority of toffees" feel.

The outside perception isn't really generated by experience or knowledge of anything other than the media line the club has allowed for over a decade, anyone not following the accepted narrative is heaved out.

So this feeling you speak of is saccharin, manufactured, dictated and created based on what is allowed to be known.

It's great that the majority of toffees share that feeling, but those that state that as a fact and not opinion display a gullible sheep like spoon fed mentality that the club's hierarchy adore, the pliable ones who will believe and do anything to maintain the status quo.

You see, lovers gonna love, sheep is gonna bleat...

I dont love Kenwright. I love Everton.
But I do respect B.K. Im not a internet warrior who pretends to know better than him.
 
I have been supporting Everton since long before Bill Kenwright was in any position of authority at the club. My support as FinnFan has just stated is for Everton and not for any individual be they owner, manager or player.

I read the arguments against Bill Kenwright on for a such as this and I have read nothing that changes my opinon that the club is basically well run by an owner who does not have the personal funds available to invest in the club to allow us to compete at the top table.

I also understand that with a family style club that Everton are/was that there are going to be people who feel left out,left down ,isolated or feel badly treated by the club . Unfortunately , this is more the nature of football, than the nature of the Everton board alone.

I am sure there are many incidents where the club has not acted well, as there is with every organisation inside or outside of football. Football in England is now a bigger industry than agriculture . The days of the family run club are long since gone and if people think that Everton has moved away from it's roots under Bill Kenwright wait until we are owned by a Texan oil billionaire who tells us proudly of his lifelong love for the Everton blues.

If, somebody is prepared to send me detail of incidents of how badly the club has acted under Bill Kenwright I would be interested in seeing them(genuinely) . If somebody thinks that by calling me a shhep, goat,horse, cow or some other animal name it makes their case stronger or more correct then off they go , I don't think it will unduly affect the thinking of like minded farm animals.
 

I have been supporting Everton since long before Bill Kenwright was in any position of authority at the club. My support as FinnFan has just stated is for Everton and not for any individual be they owner, manager or player.

I read the arguments against Bill Kenwright on for a such as this and I have read nothing that changes my opinon that the club is basically well run by an owner who does not have the personal funds available to invest in the club to allow us to compete at the top table.

I also understand that with a family style club that Everton are/was that there are going to be people who feel left out,left down ,isolated or feel badly treated by the club . Unfortunately , this is more the nature of football, than the nature of the Everton board alone.

I am sure there are many incidents where the club has not acted well, as there is with every organisation inside or outside of football. Football in England is now a bigger industry than agriculture . The days of the family run club are long since gone and if people think that Everton has moved away from it's roots under Bill Kenwright wait until we are owned by a Texan oil billionaire who tells us proudly of his lifelong love for the Everton blues.

If, somebody is prepared to send me detail of incidents of how badly the club has acted under Bill Kenwright I would be interested in seeing them(genuinely) . If somebody thinks that by calling me a shhep, goat,horse, cow or some other animal name it makes their case stronger or more correct then off they go , I don't think it will unduly affect the thinking of like minded farm animals.

There are like minds, I go way back to Moores, I've watched the club become bloody minded under Carter and desperate under Johnson (and Kenwright), to amateurish under Kenwright .

If, genuinely, you need pointing in the direction of the club acting badly, then I would suggest you haven't looked, wanted to look or kept up with 'club news'.

I would hasten to add you look towards KD, DK, et al... and perhaps the occasional Japanese dentist

Don't worry about the preponderance for farm animals it's just a phase
 
Mayor Joe, was on the radio today said there are no plans put forward at present, nothing concrete from the club just a set of proposals that they the council would like to happen.
nothing to be seen here for a good while if at all.


I can't see this happening unless the old "Retail solution" can be employed, like at Kirkby. It's not that this would be impossible, most of the major supermarkets are investing heavily now and could see having a football stadium as a unique selling point.

I just hope the club are actually doing something with this, based on their track record, I am not holding my breath
 
Again, after visiting a modern new stadium in Wolfsburg, I am left in 2 minds. Yes, it's shiny and modern with great views and decent facilities. It was all very plastic for me though with no soul. Maybe that's just the way Wolfsburg serve up their 'show' with German rock ballads and little green flags. I think there would be a lot of little details that would be important to any stadium design in order to keep things as true and traditional as possible
 

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