New Everton Stadium

[Deco]

I'm not entirely convinced that the bubble will burst anytime soon. There's nothing that I've seen which points to it - if anything it looks like it'll continually rocket.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

This thread has turned so boring....


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[roydo]

I'm not entirely convinced that the bubble will burst anytime soon. There's nothing that I've seen which points to it - if anything it looks like it'll continually rocket.

Globally, I agree.

The only issue that vexes me would be if the PL, still a relatively new and shiny thing in the US, India, China, gets overtaken by either another European league, or an actual European League.

If that makes sense.

 

[jal123]

The broadcasters face some big issues in the coming years mate, no doubt about that.

But whilst they tend to play catch up, they usually do. Heaven only knows how football will be consumed, worldwide, in the next few years, but as long as it remains popular, it will remain, somehow, profitable to show the games.

Wait until the clubs get together to sell their own rights through UHD streams on a subscription basis, that's where this is going.

 

[RaleighBlue]

I'm not entirely convinced that the bubble will burst anytime soon. There's nothing that I've seen which points to it - if anything it looks like it'll continually rocket.

Not PL, of course, but this informs a lot of my thinking generally about Live sports rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-reportedly-affected/?utm_term=.212822116ed0

This is because ESPN is struggling to maintain profit margin as their rights debts remain static and their revenue decreases due to cable cutting.

This is just the US though! Developing and emerging markets could keep football going strong for a long time, but generally it's due the model of distributing programming expenses across the entire viewing market - which is in danger due to ala carte services.

 

[roydo]

Wait until the clubs get together to sell their own rights through UHD streams on a subscription basis, that's where this is going.

Could happen, quite easily. But then thats what Bara and RM did, result, a pretty predictable league. Like, I have not a clue why Bournemouth versus Hull would get more than 3 viewers in China and India combined, but the "brand" of the English Premier League is somehow lapped up by folk all over the place.

Dont understand it, but if it means we get lobbed £100m plus a year for being in the party, then until that breaks, take the stadium option on offer now.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Could happen, quite easily. But then thats what Bara and RM did, result, a pretty predictable league. Like, I have not a clue why Bournemouth versus Hull would get more than 3 viewers in China and India combined, but the "brand" of the English Premier League is somehow lapped up by folk all over the place.

Dont understand it, but if it means we get lobbed £100m plus a year for being in the party, then until that breaks, take the stadium option on offer now.

Totally agree.

My belief the bubble will burst simply reinforces that I think we need a new stadium while we're in the glory days. We don't wanna be in Goodison if the PL drops to the 3rd/4th most watched league and has significantly less revenue. You can bet the docks would be out of the equation in that scenario.

 

[roydo]

Not PL, of course, but this informs a lot of my thinking generally about Live sports rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-reportedly-affected/?utm_term=.212822116ed0

This is because ESPN is struggling to maintain profit margin as their rights debts remain static and their revenue decreases due to cable cutting.

This is just the US though! Developing and emerging markets could keep football going strong for a long time, but generally it's due the model of distributing programming expenses across the entire viewing market - which is in danger due to ala carte services.

Thats it basically.

As long as the combination of football being very popular and an ever changing technical landscape to actually watch it remains, it will be the broadcasters, and maybe the clubs as well, who need to continue to make cash out of it.

 

[tommye]

Have we given up talking about the stadium now and shifted our focus to football finances and possible fluctuations over the next half century?


I'm enthralled.

 

[roydo]

Totally agree.

My belief the bubble will burst simply reinforces that I think we need a new stadium while we're in the glory days. We don't wanna be in Goodison if the PL drops to the 3rd/4th most watched league and has significantly less revenue. You can bet the docks would be out of the equation in that scenario.

Dont think it will burst. Like even if Sky went bust tomorrow, someone would gladly step in.

It will, and should, plateau. There is after all, a limit on all things.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Dont think it will burst. Like even if Sky went bust tomorrow, someone would gladly step in.

It will, and should, plateau. There is after all, a limit on all things.

We'll disagree on that There is no limit to my insufferability.

Burst is an exaggeration. Let me edit that to be 'market correction'. If Sky went bust, partially due to the cost of PL rights, someone else would step in - for less cost.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Dont think it will burst. Like even if Sky went bust tomorrow, someone would gladly step in.

It will, and should, plateau. There is after all, a limit on all things.

The premier league will be played one match after another from Friday until Sunday evening, with no two matches kicking off at the same time soon enough. Asian money will outbid sky and BT for the next tv deal.

 

[roydo]

We'll disagree on that There is no limit to my insufferability.

Burst is an exaggeration. Let me edit that to be 'market correction'. If Sky went bust, partially due to the cost of PL rights, someone else would step in - for less cost.

Haha! Still amounts to the same thing all this. The timing afforded to us getting a ground where we all, I think, would love it to be, has arrived.

No second chance.

 

[roydo]

The premier league will be played one match after another from Friday until Sunday evening, with no two matches kicking off at the same time soon enough. Asian money will outbid sky and BT for the next tv deal.

Not hard to draw that conclusion when you think about it.

 

[Deco]

Globally, I agree.

The only issue that vexes me would be if the PL, still a relatively new and shiny thing in the US, India, China, gets overtaken by either another European league, or an actual European League.

If that makes sense.

If anything I think it has huge potential especially in the US. Like you said the only thing that would effect it is if another league takes over but the way the PL has more and more cash pouring in will over cement it's standing.

Not PL, of course, but this informs a lot of my thinking generally about Live sports rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-reportedly-affected/?utm_term=.212822116ed0

This is because ESPN is struggling to maintain profit margin as their rights debts remain static and their revenue decreases due to cable cutting.

This is just the US though! Developing and emerging markets could keep football going strong for a long time, but generally it's due the model of distributing programming expenses across the entire viewing market - which is in danger due to ala carte services.

I agree that the domestic TV deals will likely stagnate, but it's the overseas potential that make me think it has a huge upside still. It's interesting though - if anything it reinforces how we need to work on getting revenues up outside of TV money, the stadium is essential in this.