New Everton Stadium

[Onwards Evertonians]

I've seen road improvements but very little news in the way of businesses relocating to the site or even any blue chip interest.

They'll want to see this development take hold before their heads are turned. There'll possibly be six developments starting on site this year with more announcements at MIPIM in March. If and hopefully when Everton get going, that's going to be a major catalyst and hopefully the floodgates will open. It'll probably still take a decade though.

 

[joey_macmo]

I've seen road improvements but very little news in the way of businesses relocating to the site or even any blue chip interest.

The 3 princes dock towers have already begun, think they are residential but the projects have started.

 

[bitter-no-better]

No but the difference between a 50k and a 65k stadium would show ambition

Stadium capacity is not a contributing factor now a days. Yes it helps to have larger attendances but look at our neighbours with a 45k capacity who still generated 403m turnover last year.

Commercial deals are now the biggest driver of income, more so than Broadcast revenue.

This is the area we have and will need to improve on further whilst we build the new stadium.

 

[Julius Geezer]

I've seen road improvements but very little news in the way of businesses relocating to the site or even any blue chip interest.

Rumours from other forums suggest that Peel are trying to get Channel 4 and Waitrose to move to Liverpool Waters.
Work has started on Princes Dock on one of 3 large developments that are to be built there along with the new cruise liner terminal.
Planning permission has been granted for 2 apartment blocks on the Central docks site and (again rumours but from a good source) we should be seeing plans and proposals for some iconic buildings on the Central Docks.
A Manc architect has hinted it will be bigger than anything that is currently built , so who knows ?

 

[Julius Geezer]

 

[degsy]

Watched Elstones speech a couple of times, thats news to me

If I'm right or wrong aint no nevermind...but I'd rather somebody said woah enough's enough, rather than bankrupt us.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

I filled in the feedback, under the alternative modes of transport, I put the elevated bus, wouldn't it be great to see these going up and down the dock road on a match day, covered in a massive Everton Kit;

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/03/technology/elevated-bus-china-road-test/index.html

 

[nsno-chris]

Rumours from other forums suggest that Peel are trying to get Channel 4 and Waitrose to move to Liverpool Waters.
Work has started on Princes Dock on one of 3 large developments that are to be built there along with the new cruise liner terminal.
Planning permission has been granted for 2 apartment blocks on the Central docks site and (again rumours but from a good source) we should be seeing plans and proposals for some iconic buildings on the Central Docks.
A Manc architect has hinted it will be bigger than anything that is currently built , so who knows ?

If it’s been granted it won’t be a rumour, surely. Considering all planning applications are approved by a committee whose minutes are made public.

 

[Julius Geezer]

If it’s been granted it won’t be a rumour, surely. Considering all planning applications are approved by a committee whose minutes are made public.

The plans and proposals for iconic buildings is the rumour , you've read it wrong.

 

[Yoda]

The choice isn't between something and nothing. The choice we should have is between going for full cost or taking on board a partner. I'd have preferred LCC to simply invest in this scheme. If we're that much of a driver for the whole of the north end of the city then surely they have to be able to meet their responsibility in investing in it. They'd get a stake like other municipalities have done on other stadium builds. As it stands they have a parasitical relationship with this club. That has been allowed because we have a man in control who just wants the stadium built ASAP so he can boost the value of his shares and scarper with no care of duty to the future.

This is in your opinion and while I’m sure man in charge wants to see some return on his investment, I doubt his intentions are as you have crudely put. You are wrong here, in my opinion of course..

 

[joey_macmo]

Rumours from other forums suggest that Peel are trying to get Channel 4 and Waitrose to move to Liverpool Waters.
Work has started on Princes Dock on one of 3 large developments that are to be built there along with the new cruise liner terminal.
Planning permission has been granted for 2 apartment blocks on the Central docks site and (again rumours but from a good source) we should be seeing plans and proposals for some iconic buildings on the Central Docks.
A Manc architect has hinted it will be bigger than anything that is currently built , so who knows ?

That would be a good move, its unbelievable what ITV & BBC have done to help transform Salford Quays

 

[blulouie]

I filled in the feedback, under the alternative modes of transport, I put the elevated bus, wouldn't it be great to see these going up and down the dock road on a match day, covered in a massive Everton Kit;

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/03/technology/elevated-bus-china-road-test/index.html

Put similar myself.
Reinstate the "Dockers Umbrella" overhead railway.
That could run from Brunswick to Bootle taking in all the sights along the waterfront plus without the added traffic congestion.
Would be fantastic but it would be a mamoth undertaking and very costly.
But then again it has been done before.

 

[People75]

Great time for the stadium update. Just in the end of the transfer window. My oh my.

What a spin

 

[Brisan123]

One thing that does concern me about LW, and I stand to be corrected if wrong, is that those of us who know Liverpool have heard this kind of talk for decades. While the stadium will be great and the new cultural building, river terminal, 10 streets for micro business etc let's not kid ourselves we're the new Dublin quays.

The city desperately need jobs, top of the range office space and blue chip investment/relocations. I'm not really seeing any great plan to improve the job situation drastically. It's all micro business and tourist/event revenue and that's not going to rival Manchester and the like.

With Brexit a lot of companies will leave Britain and Dublin is hoping to get some of these
Inversely companies who has buisness in Britain but no physical presence will want bases in Britain
What do they need
International airport for ease of access
Check
Modern purpose built affordable office space
The docks will provide that at a cheaper cost than London or Manchester
High quality high speed fibre broadband
Again shouldn’t be a problem.
A young educated workforce.
If Liverpool can’t provide it they will attract workers from other areas / countries
High quality reasonably priced accommodation for its workers near to the office
Docks will provide this
The workers want somewhere near where they can shop , eat , socialise
The docks will provide this.
Dublin had all this and then the bottleneck in housing came
Big companies are finding it hard to attract workers to Dublin because a 2 bed apt costs 1650-2200 Euro a month to rent and this has to be reflected in pay.
Liverpool can overcome all these issues and with Council aid ( reduced rates etc ) companies will come.
Corestate has a very small presence in Britain at the moment but they bought the Liver building with Moshiri , ???
Corestate recently bought a 670 m Euro apt developement in Europe which they will rent out and manage
They own all type of commercial office and residential buildings in Europe which they rent out and manage.
Maybe they will do the same in Liverpool
There are a lot of big boys waiting in the wings for this to start
I understand the sceptics but I was the same about Dublin docks 30 yrs ago.
When I look at it now it’s totally unrecognisable

 

[Toffeelover]

One thing that does concern me about LW, and I stand to be corrected if wrong, is that those of us who know Liverpool have heard this kind of talk for decades. While the stadium will be great and the new cultural building, river terminal, 10 streets for micro business etc let's not kid ourselves we're the new Dublin quays.

The city desperately need jobs, top of the range office space and blue chip investment/relocations. I'm not really seeing any great plan to improve the job situation drastically. It's all micro business and tourist/event revenue and that's not going to rival Manchester and the like.

With the current top political subject at the moment - Brexit, that could well benefit Liverpool with our docks once again being on the right side of the Island, then the above by MickA could well develop quite speedily.