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New Everton Stadium


Out highest average attendance in a season is about 51,000 mate.

Thing is, that's actually an impressive fact. I've mentioned it a few times but before modern day grounds/expansions, only 4 other clubs had managed to average over 50K in a single season. So we were in the top 5 in the country for that stat, we had the 4th highest record attendance, and we still have the 5th highest post war average attendance too.

Other clubs like Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool could have averaged over 50K in a season back before the Premier League era began but they didn't. Stadium size can't have restricted their averages back then to prevent 50K+ because all of their record attendances are comfortably over 50K.

Times move on though and I appreciate that, so I personally would be happy with anything around the 60K mark, even slightly lower but it should be above West Ham's current Capacity.
 
I have been on same sheet as you mate for ages.
I know just pulling your leg.
I see Corestate have just bought a 670 m Euro developement of Micro apts somewhere in Europe
That’s would have built our stadium

They bought the apartments in conjunction with Universal Investment
Now there are lads with a few pound in their back pocket
The purchase of the Liver Building gets curiouser and curiouser

About Universal-Investment

With fund assets in excess of about EUR 355 billion under administration, thereof EUR 295 billion in own vehicles, over 1,100 funds and investment mandates and a workforce of around 650, Universal-Investment is the largest independent investment company in German-spoken Europe. The focus lies on the efficient and transparent administration of funds, securities, real estate and alternative asset classes. The 1968 founded company is headquartered in Frankfurt/Main and has subsidiaries and holdings in Luxemburg and Austria. As pioneer of the investment industry Universal-Investment is now market leader in the areas of master-KVG and private label funds. Owing to the strong growth since starting the real estate business in 2011, Universal-Investment established itself as largest companies for institutional open-ended real estate funds in Germany. According to the 2017 PwC ManCo Survey, Universal-Investment is the largest AIFM ManCo in Luxembourg; among the Third-Party-ManCos, Universal-Investment ranks in second place. (As per 31 December 2017)

Please visit www.universal-investment.com for more information
 
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I know just pulling your leg.
I see Corestate have just bought a 670 m Euro developement of Micro apts somewhere in Europe
That’s would have built our stadium

They bought the apartments in conjunction with Universal Investment
Now there are lads with a few pound in their back pocket
The purchase of the Liver Building gets curiouser and curiouser

About Universal-Investment

With fund assets in excess of about EUR 355 billion under administration, thereof EUR 295 billion in own vehicles, over 1,100 funds and investment mandates and a workforce of around 650, Universal-Investment is the largest independent investment company in German-spoken Europe. The focus lies on the efficient and transparent administration of funds, securities, real estate and alternative asset classes. The 1968 founded company is headquartered in Frankfurt/Main and has subsidiaries and holdings in Luxemburg and Austria. As pioneer of the investment industry Universal-Investment is now market leader in the areas of master-KVG and private label funds. Owing to the strong growth since starting the real estate business in 2011, Universal-Investment established itself as largest companies for institutional open-ended real estate funds in Germany. According to the 2017 PwC ManCo Survey, Universal-Investment is the largest AIFM ManCo in Luxembourg; among the Third-Party-ManCos, Universal-Investment ranks in second place. (As per 31 December 2017)

Please visit www.universal-investment.com for more information

Thats a rounding error in their accounts.

Thing is, a £600m stadium is a few bob, obvs, but in context of commercial property funds, its a pimple.
 
Thing is, that's actually an impressive fact. I've mentioned it a few times but before modern day grounds/expansions, only 4 other clubs had managed to average over 50K in a single season. So we were in the top 5 in the country for that stat, we had the 4th highest record attendance, and we still have the 5th highest post war average attendance too.

Other clubs like Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool could have averaged over 50K in a season back before the Premier League era began but they didn't. Stadium size can't have restricted their averages back then to prevent 50K+ because all of their record attendances are comfortably over 50K.

Times move on though and I appreciate that, so I personally would be happy with anything around the 60K mark, even slightly lower but it should be above West Ham's current Capacity.

I know mate, that was just in response to someone stating that we've had attendances of 70k+ plus in the past. These attendances mean very little, that 50k average was over 50 years ago.

I'd be happy with anything around 60,000 - maybe slightly lower for reasons I've said before in this thread. I don't think we should be comparing ourselves to any other club though. We should aim to build something that fits the club, the fans, captures what's great about Goodison & is a truly 'Everton'.
 

I know just pulling your leg.
I see Corestate have just bought a 670 m Euro developement of Micro apts somewhere in Europe
That’s would have built our stadium

They bought the apartments in conjunction with Universal Investment
Now there are lads with a few pound in their back pocket
The purchase of the Liver Building gets curiouser and curiouser

About Universal-Investment

With fund assets in excess of about EUR 355 billion under administration, thereof EUR 295 billion in own vehicles, over 1,100 funds and investment mandates and a workforce of around 650, Universal-Investment is the largest independent investment company in German-spoken Europe. The focus lies on the efficient and transparent administration of funds, securities, real estate and alternative asset classes. The 1968 founded company is headquartered in Frankfurt/Main and has subsidiaries and holdings in Luxemburg and Austria. As pioneer of the investment industry Universal-Investment is now market leader in the areas of master-KVG and private label funds. Owing to the strong growth since starting the real estate business in 2011, Universal-Investment established itself as largest companies for institutional open-ended real estate funds in Germany. According to the 2017 PwC ManCo Survey, Universal-Investment is the largest AIFM ManCo in Luxembourg; among the Third-Party-ManCos, Universal-Investment ranks in second place. (As per 31 December 2017)

Please visit www.universal-investment.com for more information
Seemingly the Liver Building was Corestate’s first foray into the British market
A rather small investment by their standards

https://www.recapitalnews.com/barings-backs-german-corestates-uk-debut/
 
Don’t try and talk logically in here mate. We need to build a 65,000 seater stadium for the sake of it & the rest will fall into place ;)

It goes hand in hand, do you think Ravanelli, Juninho and Emerson would have moved to the north east if they were still playing at Ayresome Park? The bigger wages help but you need the vision too which players buy into. Of course Middlesbrough could never maintain that but we can.

We are trying to improve on the pitch, it's hit and miss now but that is always the case with teams that come into money suddenly, if we keep investing over the next 4 years we should have at least a team capable of getting a few shots on target per half. :p What we know is if we build it too small to start with it will never be extended, it costs way more to extend than it does to build it in the first place, City are running at 60 million for 6000 seats! I would rather we have a few thousand empty seats 10 matches a year than have all of them sold out in advance and a huge waiting list.

Don't discount that it would be a huge positive selling the vision to prospective players to say our stadium is bigger (or the same size at least) than Arsenal, City, Chelsea etc.
 
But significant.

They arent going to buy one property near Liverpool docks for a laugh. But you know that. Hopefully the scales are falling from other eyes.

The sceptics will go on about a debt burden that will cripple us
Pension funds would jump at a council backed 4% long term loan
Anyone nearing retirement would jump at 1 or 2 % interest on a cash fund
 

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