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New Everton Stadium

davek said:
No. my take is this:

It'll get done if they can secure the finances...which will be easier to get hold of if they downsize on quality and quantity...and that the location itself can and should be able to make even a bog standard stadium look attractive.

Just forget about awe inspiring designs and capacity that pulls us up to the level of our competition.
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Mate, with respect, the difference in cost between a 60000 and a 55000 ground aint that massive. The big costs have to be spent on the dead boring stuff. If you have ever had a major house extension, you will know what I mean.

Finance is sorted, or at least, underwritten.
 
Boss_Rarkley said:
I knew our arl arse fanbase would go with the outdated square stadium.

Why do we have to be so small time? I would rather we ignored fans and built an ace stadium than listen to a fanbase who lets face it has had their ambition beaten out of them under the Kenwright regime and want any old rope.

One things for certain you can forget a 60k stadium after reading that statement. Will be 55k at most.
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Mixed opinion here mate. Totally agree with your sentiments about 60k but what's an "outdated square stadium"?

If (big if given the current climate) if we were so bold as a football club we can have a big ambitious stadium and it be rectangular in design. Akin to the Lucas Oil Stadium. Something that fits in with the docks. The LOS looks awesome inside. Outside it's brick built which would suit the docks and with a retractable roof (a first for English football aye!). Has a 60-70,000 variable capacity. Built below ground level. Nothing outdated there!

But not sure the club is going in that direction. Shame. Anything less than 60k will be embarrassing for us. Not the ambition of a big club.
 
Toffeeslam said:
voted for a new stadium rather than the design, again what would be the point in bringing in Meis if they are using an identical design ?
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No, the prospectus was heavily about the stadium plus 55,000 capacity.


It wont be far off that again, simply because you can now see much clearer the remit he'll be given.

I dont know, maybe this will be the high point of his career and he manages to create a stunningly innovative design that includes a square shape and the push to retain the club's stadia traditions.
 

roydo said:
Not at all. But the new ground, be it 40 50 or 60 thousand wont make a fig of a difference in the short term. Petro cash getting lobbed into City wont go away in the short term either.

Why I was saying we build this ground for Everton. Not some daft "we have more seats than you" contest.

A few more bob from match days will help, maybe a mate of Moshiris will turn up. Who knows.
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Whilst it’s easy to get into such abbreviated argument, the reality is we need more bums on seats.
 
roydo said:
Mate, with respect, the difference in cost between a 60000 and a 55000 ground aint that massive. The big costs have to be spent on the dead boring stuff. If you have ever had a major house extension, you will know what I mean.

Finance is sorted, or at least, underwritten.
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But the hoped for leap forward was going to be 65,000 and we're assuming the downsize will be to 55,000. If it's to 50,000-52,000 then that would be some drawing in of ambitions in terms of scale. And by reducing the scheme physically by a quarter there has to be a commensurate saving when reducing down that much (AND looking to design traditionally rather than with innovation using costly materials).

There's budgets at play here. We will be dictated to by that. As said though, I'm relaxed about that from a debt angle.
 
davek said:
But the hoped for leap forward was going to be 65,000 and we're assuming the downsize will be to 55,000. If it's to 50,000-52,000 then that would be some drawing in of ambitions in terms of scale. And by reducing the scheme physically by a quarter there has to be a commensurate saving when reducing down that much (AND looking to design traditionally rather than with innovation using costly materials).

There's budgets at play here. We will be dictated to by that. As said though, I'm relaxed about that from a debt angle.
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You must be made up
 

davek said:
...yes, but he's got a job to do within a budget.

It'll test his ingenuity. However, I really think the location is the visual statement and the club are going to use that to put into context any failure for a BMD stadium to match up to Spurs, Chelsea in terms of elegance or jaw dropping.
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I’m still staggered that the results show that away supporters should be in a corner and that the tunnel should be on the halfway line........no one has ever done that before......
 
davek said:
No. my take is this:

It'll get done if they can secure the finances...which will be easier to get hold of if they downsize on quality and quantity...and that the location itself can and should be able to make even a bog standard stadium look attractive.

Just forget about awe inspiring designs and capacity that pulls us up to the level of our competition.
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It’ll be made of wood......
 
davek said:
I dont see from the data they released so far how Meis can do iconic from this. Tbf to him they sound like they'd be asking him to plait sawdust to get iconic out of "square and traditional".
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You could say one of , if the not most iconic stadium in the USA is the Lucas Oil stadium ....and that is square in design.
The inside looks fantastic too.
 

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