New Everton Stadium

[kev]

To be honest this makes sense to me, a couple of things need to be factored in that make the 52k a better option initially

1. Planning permission, the smaller capacity and design innitally of the proposal on an iconic site, the more likely it is to get granted
2. It meets the needs of investors/funders a smaller site mitigates risk to investment, but also has the appeal of maximizing profit should the market prove to be there.
3. Innitial cost, a smaller capacity is likely to be lower.
4. Future proofed, can be increased up to 60k+, should the market prove there and capacity can be increased.
5. Mitigates against risk against not getting crowds of 60k.

Things are never black and white and you need to accommodate flexibility, i would have been disappointed with a lifetime limit of 52k, but the fact the designs are future proofed up to 62k, its likely the best outcome holistically.

The most sensible post I've seen in here.
Loads of people saying "We would easy sell 60,000 if we are successful"
What if we're not?
Better to expand IF we are than to have 10,000 empty seats

 

[ijjysmith]

Bloody hell in a good way though D!

 

[Encoder]

Juventus downgraded their size for a more modern stands-close-to-the-pitch stadium. Atmosphere is everything.

 

[davek]

I agree mate.

Better to be realistic and full. We don’t want an EmptiHad do we?

And let’s face it, we’ll want to expand so why fume?

I just hope it's not the club trying to put news they know will be unpalatable in order to start the row back from a BMD stadium.

 

[Goat]

I've said in the past that 55k would be appropriate for Everton. It's a little short of that, but look at stadiums like Juventus new one and the atmosphere generated there.

Glad to be on the same page as you in this matter David.

We ride together, we die together bad boys for life.

 

[Moomin]

This news today gives me more confidence it will get built.

Hopefully we keep hearing news early next year of how it will be funded and then the plans in the summer.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

I dont get the angst over capacity. Its much more important to secure an iconic, well built stadium on a site of such global importance. Revenues will flow from it regardless. And Everton couldn't sustain home gates initially of 60k with likely ticket prices in 4 years time.

It's just a nob measuring exercise.

Absolutely. 52K is an ideal capacity. It means we can build an ideal, more intimate, stadium than a 65K+ monstrosity.

Baseball stadiums in the USA are better the smaller they are from an atmosphere perspective. Many of the best stadiums hold less than 45K.

I like it

 

[Toffeeslam]

I dont get the angst over capacity. Its much more important to secure an iconic, well built stadium on a site of such global importance. Revenues will flow from it regardless. And Everton couldn't sustain home gates initially of 60k with likely ticket prices in 4 years time.

It's just a nob measuring exercise.

For once I agree with you DaveK

Que a rip in the space time continuum as a result

 

[EverBlue92]

I've said in the past that 55k would be appropriate for Everton. It's a little short of that, but look at stadiums like Juventus new one and the atmosphere generated there.

Mate we cant generate a decent atmosphere at GP these days.

Atmosphere in England stadiums are gash regardless of capacity imo.

 

[davek]

Glad to be on the same page as you in this matter David.

We ride together, we die together bad boys for life.

Ha Ha.

 

[Neiler]

32k season ticket holders
10k on a waiting list.
10k on general sale.

If it sells out every week, it'll get an extension.

Currently about 1k less than the RS as it stands.

Id say a fair whack will be corporate facilitates myself, maybe 5k to be honest, that is where the real money is.

When it comes to 10k on a waiting list, it often doesn't always mean that 10k will take up the option to but a season ticket. You would be lucky to get 60-80% of that waiting list to be honest. A conversation rate needs to be applied to the figure of 10k and in these things there is usually a drop off of people taking up the option. This could be for varied like reasons for example: people can get ill, have babies, might be experiencing financial hardship etc. Essentially its one thing being on a no cost waiting list, its another taking up the option when people have to hand over money.

 

[zook]

I dont get the angst over capacity. Its much more important to secure an iconic, well built stadium on a site of such global importance. Revenues will flow from it regardless. And Everton couldn't sustain home gates initially of 60k with likely ticket prices in 4 years time.

It's just a nob measuring exercise.

Given the money that comes from TV these days I’m not certain ticket prices will rise considerably in 4 years. They introduced the £30 cap for away matches which in some cases more than halved what some clubs were charging - it wouldn’t surprise me to see some type of cap for home games being introduced in the next few years.

 

[kev]

I dont get the angst over capacity. Its much more important to secure an iconic, well built stadium on a site of such global importance. Revenues will flow from it regardless. And Everton couldn't sustain home gates initially of 60k with likely ticket prices in 4 years time.

It's just a nob measuring exercise.

OK who hacked the @davek account?

 

[Encoder]

Mate we cant generate a decent atmosphere at GP these days.

Atmosphere in England stadiums are gash regardless of capacity imo.

Then why is your brain melting out your ears because of the 52k capacity mate?

 

[davek]

Given the money that comes from TV these days I’m not certain ticket prices will rise considerably in 4 years. They introduced the £30 cap for away matches which in some cases more than halved what some clubs were charging - it wouldn’t surprise me to see some type of cap for home games being introduced in the next few years.

Possibly. But I remain doubtful the demand would be there. We've been unsuccessful for a quarter of a century.

Win trophies (a lot of them) then it makes sense to build on...which is what the club say could be done.