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New Everton Stadium

Neiler said:
Its pretty easy to do if the market is proven to be there and there is money to be made, that will be the ultimate motivation.

I think we should call this as it is, the club arent confident that we will fill a 60k stadium week in, week out initially, to be honest they are probably right.
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After 5 years we will probably still owe over 400 million. It is costing City 60 million to add 6k, do you think we would do that so soon after building it? File that under 'back burner', we would have to become the most successful club in the country for them to even remotely think about it.
 
They’re doing the right thing, when there is the demand for another 10k people then expand. It’ll be cheaper now and when we are performing better on the pitch and off it financially that will be the time to expand.
 
PhilM said:
I've openly admit that I've always been an advocate of a sensible size that follows the principle of quality balanced quantity, rather than simply the latter.

However, I am somewhat underwhelmed by the 52k mark as it's the lower end of the fifty mark (which I've claimed for) and sit us in eighth if you include Spurs.

A few more thousand would mean we'd be competing with City which would be a sign of ambition and a nice capacity, while you'd hope still a sensible price.
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Would rather our points at the end of the season matches city rather than our capacity.
 

The binman chronicles said:
After 5 years we will probably still owe over 400 million. It is costing City 60 million to add 6k, do you think we would do that so soon after building it? File that under 'back burner', we would have to become the most successful club in the country for them to even remotely think about it.
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Is the City stadium designed to have more, if ours is well built with expansion in mind it could be done cheaper I’d imagine
 
Groucho said:
No I think it’ll go ahead. There’s already serious pedestrian improvements underway there, and why else with that be?

Great Howard St was closed for a bit a while ago to sort the railways out.

It’s on in my opinion.
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The railway isn't exclusively linked to BMD by any stretch of the imagination but it may be a part of it alongside Liverpool Waters - albeit a minor one.

The major incentive behind keeping the line 'plausible' and the subsequent bridge works is the freight link with the expensasion Seaforth and the supermaxs.
 
The binman chronicles said:
I hope they rethink this over the summer and get it to 55k, under promise and over deliver.

12k extra is hardly screaming ambition. But that said if they have factored in being able to easily extend it without having to demolish large parts of it then I'm a lot happier than I would have been if they hadn't.
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An extra 3k isn't that much of a difference, im sure the announcement of possible expansion means the new stadium will have the infrastructure in place to expand without having to demolish.
 
As a pessimist on this I'm actually encouraged by this news and Colin Chongs emphasis on financial and comnercial sustainability in his quoted remarks.

I think the overall reaction will be lukewarm but would rather the club do not commit to anything they cannot deliver and that certainly seems to be the tone here, whilst still being a way off in terms of ensuring it becones reality.

It puts pressure on the club and Meis in particular to deliver a genuinely unique and iconic design, that has always been the quid pro quo for compromising on capacity and building on a scale less than peer clubs. Lets see.

52k at BMD is infinitely better than 39k GP, leaving all else aside. All day every day.

I wouldnt think there is any realistic possibility of a capacity extension for at least a decade after the 1st game but if its built into the design and future proofed I wouldnt argue.

With a caveat on seeing the proposed design and the many other hurdles it isnt a bad development in its own right. As long as we dont get a 52k Tesco bowl that is. This is all about the look.
 

The binman chronicles said:
I hope they rethink this over the summer and get it to 55k, under promise and over deliver.

12k extra is hardly screaming ambition. But that said if they have factored in being able to easily extend it without having to demolish large parts of it then I'm a lot happier than I would have been if they hadn't.
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I think the main thing is that the location is great - I'd rather have a 52,000 seater on the waterfront (that can be expanded a further 8k) than a 60,000 seater in some disused car park in Kirkby or something that we might not be selling out consistently.

As long as Meis nails the design and it's built to be a proper football stadium then I'm very happy. If we have success and continue growing which is what we all want then we will expand the stadium.
 
zook said:
As long as safe standing is allowed and we have it at both ends, with a nice big steep home end then all is sound.

I’d rather have a 52000 seeater and be selling it out every week rather than a 60000 plus capacity that there’d be doubts about filling consistently.
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exactly.
Demand will be high.Should be a sell out for all but the Caribou type games
Become more successful and capacity will increase and season tickets will increase
 
roydo said:
I am always baffled why building an iconic, waterfront stadium, on a world famous UNESCO site is not ambitious. Just because it has a few thousand less seats in it.

Does anyone care if *random opera theatre* has more seats than the Sydney Opera House?
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Agree 100% with BMD / Liverpool Waters being a major positive - however I feel that if the stadium designs are not to everyones taste then a large part of the stadium itself will be a dissapointment in a large portion of the fanbases eyes which is sad when you consider this will be our home for the next century maybe more.

Atleast with 55k+ if the design is a bit "out there" the stadium would still largely tick boxes in most fans eyes.

I think for all the jibes off certain folk they forget that this is a massive landmark for the club - its not the same as fuming over a team selection one week or a managerial appointment this is a huge project and fans want the best for our club.
 
roydo said:
I am always baffled why building an iconic, waterfront stadium, on a world famous UNESCO site is not ambitious. Just because it has a few thousand less seats in it.

Does anyone care if *random opera theatre* has more seats than the Sydney Opera House?
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That is subjective and to be honest I doubt it will be up there in the pantheons of when you think football stadium, BM comes near to the top.

Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking it as I would take a 42k stadium there than stay at Goodison. So if that is all we can afford so be it. However I am used to us having one of the bigger stadiums in the league, just because over the last 20 years our mismanagement has seen us fall back from that list and it now has got to the point where even to our own fans it seems we are the only club that couldn't pull in large crowds anymore. This makes me upset and frustrated.
 
Good call. Look at it this way. City , arsenal and West Ham have bigger capacity’s but empty seats and poor atmosphere. They won’t have an option to reduce the size of their ground. We could have a stadium built for 52k which can hold 62k. It would be like Switching from Goodison pre and post all seater stadiums.
 

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