We are not a top club and the sooner people come to accept that the better it will be for all concerned.
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Not if the ground is built with the extension in mind
That way it would only involve adding in extra tiers on both ends or maybe in corners with no roof
If the stadium is built with the extension in mind then it won’t cost as much to build the extension at a future date
Didn’t explain that very well did I
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £40m
Is there market demand though? I think football is enveloped in a bubble that is sure to pop. Fans as a whole are more disillusioned with the sport than they have ever been.
EverBlue92
Player Valuation: £8m
West Ham appoint Pellegrini and aim to make their ground 60k
We appoint midtable Marco and are happy at 52k
Something stinks with this club.
We appoint midtable Marco and are happy at 52k
Something stinks with this club.
What? Hahaha their ground is already 60k and was built about 5 years before they rented it, and Pellegrini is a washed up corpse.
I agree something stinks. And it doesn’t come from directly within the club either.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
10k extra seats would probably be 100 million + (god knows what inflation will do also), after interest would probably take 12 years before it has even paid for itself. Not many owners are going to be too worried about getting a return that far in the future unless cash is no object, like the sheikhs at city.
EverBlue92
Player Valuation: £8m
Think their ground is something like 56k for football mate.
And ageist that comment Pellegrini has won league titles and got midtable sides competing against the top 2 in La Liga and into Champions League Semi Finals. I assume you wouldn't take on Wenger / SAF if age/looks is all that floats your boat not honours?
Let me know when Silva does those things and I'll hold him in the same regard...
West Ham sell the tickets but fall massively short in attendance to sales
West Ham – Official average attendance: 55,309 (97 per cent full) – Actual average attendance: 42,779 (75 per cent full) – Difference: 12,530 (22 per cent)
The Hammers' biggest descrepancy came against West Brom at the start of 2018. Official figures stated 56,888 fans but only 39,365 were in the stadium.
That equates to a quarter empty even though they still get the revenue from sold tickets. That is what W Ham announce attendance on....sold tickets and not how many are actually in the ground.
Man City – Official average attendance: 53,274 (97 per cent full) – Actual average attendance: 45,792 (83 per cent full) – Difference: 7,482 (14 per cent)
The reigning champions have almost 8,000 more empty seats than the stats suggest.
Right ok, so if we sacked Silva and appointed Alex Ferguson right now you’d call that ambitious would you?
Pellegrini absolutely is finished, you’ve gone back nearly a decade for all his achievements. There was nothing ambitious about that appointment in the slightest. And the stadium isn’t even theirs.
EverBlue92
Player Valuation: £8m
100% I dont get this obsession some fans have with these young managers - they are 40, handsome and play nice togger so must be absolutely boss...
Pellegrini has still proven he can win things in the top leagues & build sides to compete at CL level.
Silva has won the one horse greek plumber league and promoted a side in Portugal (like Hughton has just done with Brighton).
He might well become a winner one day but until that day comes I maintain he's done nothing to convince me he deserved the EFC job and isn't doing much at present to change my opinion. However thats for another thread.
I agree, to be honest I thought your 60 mill was on the low side. But inflation works both ways as well, especially with infrastructure and debt. For example 100 mill 20 years ago was a lot of money in football, it’s not now, inflation. We’ve spent over that in summer windows, to be honest capital expenditure is a far sureer investment as is the return, the return is long term and if the market is there pays for its self many times over in the long term.
Look at it this way, Goodison was built for so much and has generated so much money over the years that, that cost is minuscule in term of inflation and revenue generation.
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Totally agree, far too small and narrow minded capacity, Small time Everton strike again !!!
Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
I said ages ago in this thread, that jumping to 60k and above, at this stage, would be mental. People say about ambition, but personally, I'd rather have a stadium that's full every week with higher demand for tickets, than the empty, soulless nature of some these newer, bigger grounds. Our current capacity is just over 38k, meaning 52k is still over 40% increase on what we have. We will have an idea of what demand is currently like, and given the majority of our support is regular season ticket based support, making up almost 75% of our attendances, they will know that even if that demand increases by 25%, the remaining "walk up" attendees will still have potential to increase by nearly double as well. And there is going to have to be a price increase, even if we remain generous to our loyal followers as we currently do. That will have an impact.
In my opinion, its a sensible decision, and with the added note that it could be increased (when all previous talk was that it would not), its a decision that is being made with the right logic and business sense in mind, and not just the unrealistic field of dreams approach of build it and they will come, or even worse, the petty, "let's get one over on that lot". Regardless of what we think of them, there's a reason they have a bigger capacity than us, and I really don't want to have to think about it.
As for Newcastle, they might have a bigger capacity, but they are a 1 team city, and not so long ago, when they made the improvements, they were right up there challenging while we were scrounging around near the bottom. If we improve, and if we start to challenge, we can increase like they did, and like all the other top teams have done and are doing.
In my opinion, its a sensible decision, and with the added note that it could be increased (when all previous talk was that it would not), its a decision that is being made with the right logic and business sense in mind, and not just the unrealistic field of dreams approach of build it and they will come, or even worse, the petty, "let's get one over on that lot". Regardless of what we think of them, there's a reason they have a bigger capacity than us, and I really don't want to have to think about it.
As for Newcastle, they might have a bigger capacity, but they are a 1 team city, and not so long ago, when they made the improvements, they were right up there challenging while we were scrounging around near the bottom. If we improve, and if we start to challenge, we can increase like they did, and like all the other top teams have done and are doing.
Has he? Where, when? He retired to China 2 years ago after nearly destroying City and has been brought back for 2 years before he retires again to steer West Ham to mid table on a stupid salary, where the hell is the ambition in that?
Anyway this is the stadium thread, and West Ham play at a rented athletics track that their fans unanimously despise, and we’re building a state of the art arena at the heart of the city with a capacity absolutely suited to the level of club we are.
Stephen Gibson
Player Valuation: £15m
Im underwhelmed. What im hearing is the world class stadium in terms of design we thought we were getting will potentially have its design compromised by an extension down the line to get to the capacity a good chunk of us wanted in the first place.
Nobody builds a brand new house then plans for an extension. You build it right 1st time.
Why not build a 57-58k seater wrapped around a design that was always intended for a stadium of that size.
If Dan Meis & the board truly want a stand out design on the water front then commit to it. It doesn't have to have a cheese room or a roof or a removable pitch etc etc but just a great piece of design that stands up.
Nobody builds a brand new house then plans for an extension. You build it right 1st time.
Why not build a 57-58k seater wrapped around a design that was always intended for a stadium of that size.
If Dan Meis & the board truly want a stand out design on the water front then commit to it. It doesn't have to have a cheese room or a roof or a removable pitch etc etc but just a great piece of design that stands up.