New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[ijjysmith]

Juventus seem to be doing alright in a smaller ground.

 

[larrygobfiend]

So people want an influx of faux supporters to top up the attendance to 60,000?

 

[MickA]

This is my point.

Look at West Hams average on that list....fact is that is sold tickets and given away tickets whereas the true average is nearly 25% less. It is not a true account of actual attendance

Look here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1016652/West-Ham-attendance-London-Stadium

Yeah I agree with you just posting it for info. Seats sold and left empty are a bane of PL footy but some clubs look considerably worse than others such as Arsenal, City, Wham. I think a point that gets missed often is each club has its own distinct set of circumstances and it's too easy to look at EFC against others through the same lens which can lead to some weird conclusions.

Sunderland for example have had higher attendances than us recently in the PL but their tickets are dirt cheap with loads given away free. Know the club, scratch the surface and you'll get to the truth.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

I've previously done my assessment it should be 60k+, the article is still there. I won't repeat the justifications.

All I will say though, coming from the last 24 hours or so is we have seen a number of things that concern me slightly. They mainly seem to stem from the club as ever not being massively clear in it's statements or how it's arrived at the number it has got too.

If 52k was the maximum that could fit, come out and communicate it. While I am critical I will accept that this remained the best option, far more so than an inferior location with a bigger ground. Until that is done though, it is hard to not be critical.

Likewise I am seeing some suggestions the increase is due in part to rail seats. Some suggestion we could go to 55k with seats and another 7k when rail seating laws might be relaxed. If this is the case there is very little logic to me in this. We are saying we cannot sell out 55k seats, but maybe we can sell 62k (7-10k of which will be standing in area that was designed for 4-6k seated fans). Building a plan on selling an inferior quality of product to more people doesn't make sense to me.

I think there are certain games where people would pay just as much to stand as they would to sit for a regular game. So for example, for the Derby, I would happily pay the same to stand as I would pay to sit for a game against a mid table side, such as Burnley.

 

[H.H.]

I was of the opinion that safe standing ie rail seats was on a 1:1 basis and did not increase capacity
Maybe @RobSpurs or @Yid4life could clarify

I'm 15 hrs behind but in case not answered,

Spurs is 1 seat to 1 standing ratio (= No increase in capacity.)

 

[MickA]

Juventus seem to be doing alright in a smaller ground.

Like I mention above you have to look at context. Italian football is not the PL, Juve are not EFC etc etc.

 

[LEONARD]

On the Banks of the Royal Blue Mersey.

 

[Groucho]

There’s been a study done somewhere that 55k is the ideal stadium capacity for proximity and atmosphere.

 

[Azza]

There’s been a study done somewhere that 55k is the ideal stadium capacity for proximity and atmosphere.

I imagine Meis has lots of facts and stats about the optimal number of people for best sound etc in an area of 'x' size and all that.

 

[Bobski]

Bunch of bedwetters

 

[Sharpies volley]

I think there are certain games where people would pay just as much to stand as they would to sit for a regular game. So for example, for the Derby, I would happily pay the same to stand as I would pay to sit for a game against a mid table side, such as Burnley.

I always preferred standing at the match the whole match day experience was better

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Why does it need to be bigger? The money from tickets isn't substantial to the club. We ain't going to become successful any time soon. The club seemingly cannot afford a top quality stadum at a higher capacity. So ail in all, we should be satisfied with 52,000 and hope it is exactly what's been promised. The location beats anything in the entire league, especially once the development around it is completed, and despite Anfield being bigger, it'll be nothing compared to ours. Planes flying into Liverpool in the evening, first thing they see is our ground. Visitors wanting a quick trip to a stadium, ours is much more accessible. It'll be ace, if it ever happens.

 

[banno]

I always preferred standing at the match the whole match day experience was better

Yes I did also. Just had to make sure you had nothing in your back pockets. Lots of pickpockets in operation at Goodison and away games. Organised by the fagans.

 

[Toffeelover]

We spent quite a few million on studies regarding studies and plans for WHP

Was not querying coat outlays but the matter of "multiple" failures on stadium attempts and questioned the subject of a golf course!

 

[Hickson9]

At the very least we know that we will sell put 52K every week.

If the design is correct, and with the location being brilliant, then it could be a bear pit of a stadium that becomes iconic in English football.